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    Quote Originally Posted by ErezS View Post
    Dana,
    Just because you get into my money, which I think is not respectable thing, I'll tell you a secret, just to your eyes.
    I giving up with other things so I can fly abroad from time to time. I'm 58 years old, but I flew for the first time after age 40.
    I'm one of old-timers here, but I have only few simple cameras with few simple lenses, the cheapest equipment one can buy.


    This discussion has unfortunately become disrespectful.
    Why did this happen? All in all that I wrote my personal opinion that you should not reject outright photos taken in bad weather.

    Another people wrote similar things, but you personally decided for some reason to respond to me in the way you responded.
    I'm done here.
    All the best.
    There was no personal attack intended, and certainly no disrespect. I was simply trying to say that while it may have been hard for you to do your trip or buy your gear, there are so many others who can't even afford a camera and lens, let alone to travel outside their country, or even hometown. Just asking for a little perspective so you don't let JP's acceptance of your photos dictate how much you enjoy your hobby or your travels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlowwa View Post
    There was no personal attack intended, and certainly no disrespect. I was simply trying to say that while it may have been hard for you to do your trip or buy your gear, there are so many others who can't even afford a camera and lens, let alone to travel outside their country, or even hometown. Just asking for a little perspective so you don't let JP's acceptance of your photos dictate how much you enjoy your hobby or your travels.
    I enjoy my hobby, regardless of the photos, whether they are accepted or rejected.

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    Maybe it's better to keep this on topic guys...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjorn1979 View Post
    Maybe it's better to keep this on topic guys...
    +1

    Let's now stay on the initial subject which was QUALIY Rejections


    Alex (who spent a day shooting in mostly miserable light and weather at MAKS...)

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    I've just spent three days in Beijing hoping to get some nice shots. Unfortunately the weather here isn't always the best and east asia is generally having some pretty grim weather at the moment anyway. Finally managed to see the Air Koryo Antonov that had eluded me on my previous visits and some other airlines that we don't get to see in Shanghai. The photos that I have are, what you would say, for the personal collection. This is all part of the fun that is photography and hoping for better weather at Heathrow next month . Thank you to the jetphotos team for all their hard work and wishing us all some good luck on our next visits to an airport.

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    With options like flickr and facebook you still can share all pics you have taken without the need for any screening process. Imho this should always be your first option, with an acceptance at jp.net being just an added bonus. And the main part is enjoying the time spent at the airport.

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    Some people think they have to upload every picture on JP and can´t keep it for their "private" collection. I uploaded also some terrible photos many years ago. So shame on me
    As seahawk said there are many other opportunities to share the photos.
    So I am still hoping the screeners will keep a closer look on bad weather (quality) photos to reduce the queue.

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    I am now a little bit discouraged about uploading photos to jetphotos site. I checked the guidelines, and I decided not to upload a lot of photos I had in my archive. However, I had a few photos that I thought could be acceptable, but they got rejected too. Sincerely, I can not see why they are flawed, even looking to the examples in the guideline thread, and even if the rejection reasons have been explained.

    Maybe some more comprehensive tutorial on how to address the quality issues in order to meet the website quality standards would be helpful, I don't know...

    These are the photos I did not expect could be rejected:

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    - JPG compression artefacts - How to avoid jpg artefacts, since the website asks to reduce the photo size to 1280xN?

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    - Bad Composition (bad framing / aircraft not centered) - The mountain is a part of the photo... The helicopter is used for mountain rescue...

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    Ηi Sergio,

    as of the 1st pic, a good way to avoid JPG artefacts is to save them at the maximum quality. At Photoshop (CS or whatever) File-> Save As-> JPG and at the dropdown menu, choose Quality 12 (the maximum value) and Progressive Scans 5.

    The 2nd pic. Yes, the mountain is part of the pic but the sky above it , is not. So try to crop it better, with less sky visible

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    Quote Originally Posted by flying Doc View Post
    Ηi Sergio,

    as of the 1st pic, a good way to avoid JPG artefacts is to save them at the maximum quality. At Photoshop (CS or whatever) File-> Save As-> JPG and at the dropdown menu, choose Quality 12 (the maximum value) and Progressive Scans 5.

    The 2nd pic. Yes, the mountain is part of the pic but the sky above it , is not. So try to crop it better, with less sky visible

    Thank you, flying Doc.

    I always save jpgs with quality 12 (after having done all the postproduction work on the RAW file and, rarely, some other adjustement in CS6). I have also read the tip and trics thread and other threads, but I still do not understand exactly how are the quality standards of this website. In fact, even now I'm not able to see the jpg artefacts of pic 1... It is MY fault, mind you, but it is anyway frustrating not to understand completely what is going on. I never had such issues with landscape photography.

    I'll crop differently pic2, I'm understanding that aviation photos follow different rules if compared with other kinds of photography. Probably, I underestimated how strict are the composition rules explained in the guideline thread.

    Thank you again for your help.

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    Hello, come to my rescue !!!
    I have rejections of my photos. I want to display the new plane APG AIRLINES JetPhotos and Fr24 but my photos are rejected for bad qualities or Cropping / Photo edges / Size Ratio / JPG compression artefacts.
    I can not resize them without losing quality.
    I ask you for help because I am French and I speak very little English. So I can not search the forum to find my answers.
    Thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsu3 View Post
    Hello, come to my rescue !!!
    I have rejections of my photos. I want to display the new plane APG AIRLINES JetPhotos and Fr24 but my photos are rejected for bad qualities or Cropping / Photo edges / Size Ratio / JPG compression artefacts.
    I can not resize them without losing quality.
    I ask you for help because I am French and I speak very little English. So I can not search the forum to find my answers.
    Thank you
    Stéphane
    These photos have no chance at all of being accepted, as they lack basic photography basics (both are backlit, bad framed) and qualities (JPG compression, cropping, ...).

    You need to start with other photos.

    It would also be good to learn to understand basics of taking photos and editing photos. For example: resizing photos does NOT mean losing quality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LX-A343 View Post
    These photos have no chance at all of being accepted, as they lack basic photography basics (both are backlit, bad framed) and qualities (JPG compression, cropping, ...).

    You need to start with other photos.

    It would also be good to learn to understand basics of taking photos and editing photos. For example: resizing photos does NOT mean losing quality.


    unfortunately reject quality photos and accept photos of poor quality.

    the first is reject

    https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=6661314

    and the second accept

    https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/

    just compare
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcarvalho View Post
    unfortunately reject quality photos and accept photos of poor quality.

    the first is reject

    https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=6661314

    and the second accept

    https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9005387

    just compare
    Firstly, it is considered extremely rude to compare your correctly rejected image to someone else’s correctly accepted image. The histogram on your image has a flat line on the right hand side which indicates the underexposure. This histogram can be adjusted.
    If it 'ain't broken........ Don't try to mend it !


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    Quote Originally Posted by pcarvalho View Post
    unfortunately reject quality photos and accept photos of poor quality.

    the first is reject

    https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=6661314

    and the second accept

    https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/

    just compare
    There are thousands of images we could compare and argue which is better/worse, darker/brighter, sharper/softer, but we won't. Please keep the discussion to your own image(s).

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    Quote Originally Posted by brianw999 View Post
    Firstly, it is considered extremely rude to compare your correctly rejected image to someone else’s correctly accepted image. The histogram on your image has a flat line on the right hand side which indicates the underexposure. This histogram can be adjusted.
    negative, It is what I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlowwa View Post
    There are thousands of images we could compare and argue which is better/worse, darker/brighter, sharper/softer, but we won't. Please keep the discussion to your own image(s).

    I always have to compare with other images

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcarvalho View Post
    I always have to compare with other images
    Then compare YOUR rejections to YOUR accepted images. Do not compare to someone else’s accepted work. Your image is clearly underexposed, the histogram clearly confirms it. The histogram can be adjusted to fix the problem which is the route that you need to take. If you continue to compare to the work of others you will find that you will be ignored.
    If it 'ain't broken........ Don't try to mend it !


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    Quote Originally Posted by brianw999 View Post
    Then compare YOUR rejections to YOUR accepted images. Do not compare to someone else’s accepted work. Your image is clearly underexposed, the histogram clearly confirms it. The histogram can be adjusted to fix the problem which is the route that you need to take. If you continue to compare to the work of others you will find that you will be ignored.

    I'm talking about quality and not histogram. Or have or do not have quality, end.
    I send photos to the jetphotos almost 16 years, I do not need to compare myself to anyone.

    regards

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    Just my 2cent as a normal user:
    I don't understand why you complain? If you have so many experience as you said then you should see clearly that the linked photo is underexposed. So why do you compare with others instead of simply fixing and reuploading. What are your minds behind that post...I'm not getting the point.

    Of course there are sometimes small differences that can come from different screens (user and screener) and also different workflows. But I saw your linked photo before it was removed and to be honest I could not see why it's worser then yours? For me your linked photo was in quality better then yours.

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