I am sure that onboard radar, ATC, Mark IV 400-700 nm quadruple passive radar and dual low-silicon FMS were all in use...and indeed, the heavy rainshaft was avoided...
Ok, this is a complicated post, but there has always seemed to be a lot of dichotomies and inconsistencies in storm avoidance.
In this youtube, we see a SW 737 fly essentially next to a tornado. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsACwJkp0CI I am pretty sure this was a 'warned storm' when the tornado formed.
I often razz Boing Bobby: He rather boldly proclaims that he gives thunderstorms a wide safety berth. I have countered that 'the industry' often seems to give storms relatively little berth.
There are important caveats: Guys will use their real-time on-board radar to find reasonable holes- but this incident sort of supports the, 'hey, it's not raining, who cares if the clouds are ugly, who cares if there’s tornado warnings and who cares what shade of purple is in the core of the storm...I'll just fly right at this genuinely nasty looking wall cloud and associated other dark, ominous clouds...'
As a former resident of Useless, TX, I also have repeatedly mentioned that I remember the afternoon of the Delta 191 crash. It was a good old fashioned afternoon towering cumulus...NOT a squall line/rotating/supercell mega storm- at least not a few minutes before they encountered it...it's always been my belief that they saw this as a mundane penetration instead of the 'worst-ever-recorded' wind shear.
Finally- what is the problem with the tornado-warning department being able to talk to control towers? At DFW, the NWS was issuing stuff for the general public, but the tower was disseminating that he visually saw a shower on final. What the hell happened here in Flyover...Southwest xxx, fly runway heading, cleared for takeoff, never mind the rotating wall cloud, tornado-warned supercell 6 miles off the departure end of runway 30L. (I'm embellishing, but...) Absolutely the weather service communicates with ATC, but again and again, you see storm warnings and aviation operations that appear oblivious to each other- not saying that airplanes need to know about tornado warnings...but then again, they sort of do need to know.
Of course, there's gentle thunderstorms (don't tell Bobby that) and the herd mentality if everyone else is getting through with mundane turbulence...AND I know there are diversions and holds...just saying it's not hard to find someone getting close and personal to nasty Cb's.
I still argue: Yeah, we checked the weather, BUT, it's time to depart (or we're on approach)...we got a big, strong, powerful plane...full ahead!...
Ok, this is a complicated post, but there has always seemed to be a lot of dichotomies and inconsistencies in storm avoidance.
In this youtube, we see a SW 737 fly essentially next to a tornado. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsACwJkp0CI I am pretty sure this was a 'warned storm' when the tornado formed.
I often razz Boing Bobby: He rather boldly proclaims that he gives thunderstorms a wide safety berth. I have countered that 'the industry' often seems to give storms relatively little berth.
There are important caveats: Guys will use their real-time on-board radar to find reasonable holes- but this incident sort of supports the, 'hey, it's not raining, who cares if the clouds are ugly, who cares if there’s tornado warnings and who cares what shade of purple is in the core of the storm...I'll just fly right at this genuinely nasty looking wall cloud and associated other dark, ominous clouds...'
As a former resident of Useless, TX, I also have repeatedly mentioned that I remember the afternoon of the Delta 191 crash. It was a good old fashioned afternoon towering cumulus...NOT a squall line/rotating/supercell mega storm- at least not a few minutes before they encountered it...it's always been my belief that they saw this as a mundane penetration instead of the 'worst-ever-recorded' wind shear.
Finally- what is the problem with the tornado-warning department being able to talk to control towers? At DFW, the NWS was issuing stuff for the general public, but the tower was disseminating that he visually saw a shower on final. What the hell happened here in Flyover...Southwest xxx, fly runway heading, cleared for takeoff, never mind the rotating wall cloud, tornado-warned supercell 6 miles off the departure end of runway 30L. (I'm embellishing, but...) Absolutely the weather service communicates with ATC, but again and again, you see storm warnings and aviation operations that appear oblivious to each other- not saying that airplanes need to know about tornado warnings...but then again, they sort of do need to know.
Of course, there's gentle thunderstorms (don't tell Bobby that) and the herd mentality if everyone else is getting through with mundane turbulence...AND I know there are diversions and holds...just saying it's not hard to find someone getting close and personal to nasty Cb's.
I still argue: Yeah, we checked the weather, BUT, it's time to depart (or we're on approach)...we got a big, strong, powerful plane...full ahead!...
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