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    Question Safety data sample collecting?

    Hello to big Jetphotos community,

    Since there are a lot of people from different backgrounds, I hope someone will be able to help me out on this issue. I recently started working in aviation industry with no prior experience and I think I got a difficult task from my superior for someone that's really new.

    To further explain, I got to work in Chinese airlines company and its safety supervision department. One of my superiors told me he wants to improve all departments quality work that is related to aircraft operations. He wants me to find/make way to collect samples of data from those departments that are related to aircraft safety operations. I know the only data company collects is QAR (quick access recorder). We also have SMS (safety management system) but I don't know how much of that is relevant. The thing is I don't even know where to start from, and I haven't seen any of the related departments (flight department, maintenance, cargo handling, cabin crew, dispatchers) to get the feel of what they do and how it relates to safety. (imagine that).

    I guess it would be very helpful if I knew what are important safety process and procedures in such departments in day to day operations. And how would they be measured and are there any softwares that can be implemented or exist for such departments.

    I plea for help if anyone has some advice for me and I hope my message is somewhat understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uros Drapsin View Post
    Hello to big Jetphotos community,

    Since there are a lot of people from different backgrounds, I hope someone will be able to help me out on this issue. I recently started working in aviation industry with no prior experience and I think I got a difficult task from my superior for someone that's really new.

    To further explain, I got to work in Chinese airlines company and its safety supervision department. One of my superiors told me he wants to improve all departments quality work that is related to aircraft operations. He wants me to find/make way to collect samples of data from those departments that are related to aircraft safety operations. I know the only data company collects is QAR (quick access recorder). We also have SMS (safety management system) but I don't know how much of that is relevant. The thing is I don't even know where to start from, and I haven't seen any of the related departments (flight department, maintenance, cargo handling, cabin crew, dispatchers) to get the feel of what they do and how it relates to safety. (imagine that).

    I guess it would be very helpful if I knew what are important safety process and procedures in such departments in day to day operations. And how would they be measured and are there any softwares that can be implemented or exist for such departments.

    I plea for help if anyone has some advice for me and I hope my message is somewhat understanding.
    You will need a lot of contact with those departments, which I know is difficult in many Airlines in the western world (I can only imagine in China).
    Outside your company, an obvious but very good place to start is in the IOSA audit standards:
    http://www.iata.org/whatwedo/safety/...ges/index.aspx

    This is a sort of ISO 9000 standard and audit, but with exclusive and intensive focus in safety and security management in airlines, and it addresses specifically the safety and security aspects of those departments. In the standard's manual you will find specific requirements, and in the audit standard, specific questions. Finding ways to answering those questions can be a good way to achieve your task. And, in turn, will leave your airline much more ready to face the IOSA audit.

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    Thank you Gabriel.

    I'm familiar with IOSA standards to some extent. Hopefully I do good job on this one. I will post my results and what I did regarding this matter at the end of the year letting you and everyone else in this community know what to do if any encounter similar problems in future.

    Another quick question regarding IOSA. I can't figure out what is the difference between IOSA renewal audit and verification audit in the IOSA Program Manual (chapter 7.2.3 and 7.2.4)

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    IOSA AUDIT HANDBOOK 8th EDITION, SEPTEMBER 2017

    5.6 Verification Audits
    5.6.1 Process for Verification Audits
    In accordance with the IPM 7.7.5, IATA may determine a Verification Audit (VA) must be conducted to
    ensure continued conformity with the ISM and IPM. This is based on the situation where the Operator
    has had a significant change in their organization or operation, that the audit report is no longer an
    accurate reflection of the Operator.

    The renewal audit is just the next regular audit(s) after the initial audit, that is, before the certificate of the initial (or previous renewal) audit expires.

    --- Judge what is said by the merits of what is said, not by the credentials of who said it. ---
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