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    Quote Originally Posted by Schwartz View Post
    I can show you that becoming aclimatised to nuisance alerts is as fatal as not having them. In some cases worse. If you train yourself not to react to an nuisance alert, you might ignore a similar alert at first that turns out to be fatal. Ignoring "a few nuisance" alerts can become just as deadly.
    Agreed, if the pilots are not properly trained pilots. Properly trained pilots will know a) how to avoid or minimize nuisance alerts and b) to NEVER ignore them in IMC and c) NEVER to pull the alert CB unless it is seriously and definitely malfunctioning.

    The thing is, the alerts other pilots at this airline were considering nuisance alerts were also real, valid alerts for the scenario and configuration. These were never nuisance alerts. It was hazardous flying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evan View Post
    Agreed, if the pilots are not properly trained pilots. Properly trained pilots will know a) how to avoid or minimize nuisance alerts and b) to NEVER ignore them in IMC and c) NEVER to pull the alert CB unless it is seriously and definitely malfunctioning.

    The thing is, the alerts other pilots at this airline were considering nuisance alerts were also real, valid alerts for the scenario and configuration. These were never nuisance alerts. It was hazardous flying.
    Ah, so they were flying the edge of the envelope. Well, that in itself is usually fatal if done often enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoeingBobby View Post
    Care to back this up by fact? At my old company by the way, you were allowed one reset attempt of a CB.
    Supreme leader Donald (with your help) has given us the safest year ever in Aviation, nevertheless, you and your friends are reckless cowboys and are not to be trusted with yokes nor autopilots nor circuit breakers.
    Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3WE View Post
    Supreme leader Donald (with your help) has given us the safest year ever in Aviation, nevertheless, you and your friends are reckless cowboys and are not to be trusted with yokes nor autopilots nor circuit breakers.
    Ha! with your help needs to be in blue also!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoeingBobby View Post
    Ha! with your help needs to be in blue also!
    And Supreme Leader. And "has given us". The only truth there is "safest year ever in Aviation".

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3WE View Post
    Supreme leader Donald (with your help) has given us the safest year ever in Aviation, nevertheless, you and your friends are reckless cowboys and are not to be trusted with yokes nor autopilots nor circuit breakers.
    And with the help of a red button that is bigger and more powerful than some else's red button!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    And with the help of a red button that is bigger and more powerful than some else's red button!!!
    I'm totally cool with someone pulling that circuit breaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brianw999 View Post
    Contact Breakers, not Cumulo Nimbus !! .....or have you trapped me into biting ?

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    Here we see a pilot monkeying with CBs. While he brushes near them, I do not see much in the way of pulling or pushing, although there are some minor resets of attitude.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrlhpZ0PN5Q
    Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.

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