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    Default Arvin Lienardi - editing advice

    hi, i just searching past files and find this photo below, i need advice or pre-screening on this photo.
    the photo had been edited before with photoshop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arvin Lienardi View Post
    hi, i just searching past files and find this photo below, i need advice or pre-screening on this photo.
    the photo had been edited before with photoshop.
    thank you
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    Looks passable to me.

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    Default Arvin Lienardi - pre-screening

    Just really not sure does these photos are likely to be accepted or rejected.
    Any comments are appreciated.
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    Thank you,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arvin Lienardi View Post
    Just really not sure does these photos are likely to be accepted or rejected.
    Any comments are appreciated.
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    Thank you,
    Hi,

    IMHO:

    #1. cut off (horizontal stabilizer), soft, blurry
    #2. needs a better crop. Too much dead space in the left.
    #3. overexposed in the front section from the fuselage.

    I'm a normal user from the site/forum, so wait more comments from the crew.

    Cheers,

    Vinicius

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    Quote Originally Posted by vcruvinel View Post
    Hi,

    IMHO:

    #1. cut off (horizontal stabilizer), soft, blurry
    #2. needs a better crop. Too much dead space in the left.
    #3. overexposed in the front section from the fuselage.

    I'm a normal user from the site/forum, so wait more comments from the crew.

    Cheers,

    Vinicius
    #3 is not overexposed, it should be fine.

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    Default Help with contrast rejection

    Recently i got several photos mainly rejected due to contrast reasons. I do not know either it's too high or too low contrast.
    Here some of the photos

    https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=6873410
    https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=6913518
    https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=6874882
    https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=6913549

    I hope JP crews can help me with this by giving suggestion during editing. Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arvin Lienardi View Post
    Recently i got several photos mainly rejected due to contrast reasons. I do not know either it's too high or too low contrast.
    Here some of the photos

    https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=6873410
    https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=6913518
    https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=6874882
    https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=6913549

    I hope JP crews can help me with this by giving suggestion during editing. Thank you
    Hi.

    At first welcome to JP.

    For your rejections. Unfortunately #1, #3 and #4 can not be fixed due to the overcast sky.
    If you shoot in such conditions the image lacks contrast, the result is "too much or too little contrast".
    #2 have a little chance with a better editing. Try to process the image from the original file.
    To avoid "noise/grain" use less sharpening as in the image above and add a bit of noise reduction if needed.

    Small addition to the rejected images:
    Some of them show JPEG-Compression artefacts - save your images in highest quality to avoid them.

    Hope this will help, if you had questions feel free to ask in this thread.

    Have a good day!
    Best Regards from Germany,
    Julian S.​

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    Usually the airport i went for spotting gets a bit hazy at around 3pm and above, does that contribute to lack of contrast due to bad weather?

    I do still have a doubt on how to determine wheter the image contrast is too high or to low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arvin Lienardi View Post
    Usually the airport i went for spotting gets a bit hazy at around 3pm and above, does that contribute to lack of contrast due to bad weather?

    I do still have a doubt on how to determine wheter the image contrast is too high or to low.

    Hey there,

    I’m not a screener or crew member but my suggestion (as a fellow photographer) would be to read the ‘photo upload guidelines’ which will give you a run down on what is and what is not acceptable as well as example images so you can get a visual idea of what contrast is acceptable as well as other aspects,

    Cheers and Kindest Regards,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arvin Lienardi View Post
    Usually the airport i went for spotting gets a bit hazy at around 3pm and above, does that contribute to lack of contrast due to bad weather?

    I do still have a doubt on how to determine wheter the image contrast is too high or to low.
    Hi.

    Sorry for the slightly late reply!

    Heat haze have nothing to do with contrast. The main reason is no,bad or too harsch light.
    As written above the problem in your pics is the overcast sky - as a result the pictures have too little contrast what not fixable, same for backlit.

    A good idea is, as Jordan already said to read the guidelines. They give ideas about that what we want to see/not to see (or what is accepteable and what not)
    https://forums.jetphotos.com/showthr...ES-New-version
    Also a really good help and a must read:
    https://forums.jetphotos.com/showthr...important+info
    Best Regards from Germany,
    Julian S.​

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    I have several photos that i'm not sure about. I would be grateful if any JP crew could give their opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arvin Lienardi View Post
    I have several photos that i'm not sure about. I would be grateful if any JP crew could give their opinion.
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    1. contrast
    2. horizon, borderline contrast
    3. contrast, heat haze
    4. backlit
    5. backlit, contrast

    Only #2 is potentially fixable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlowwa View Post
    1. contrast
    2. horizon, borderline contrast


    Only #2 is potentially fixable.
    Firstly, thank you for the response. But what do you mean by borderline contrast? Does no.1 have contrast issue because of the sun doesnt shone to the plane due to covered by clouds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arvin Lienardi View Post
    Firstly, thank you for the response. But what do you mean by borderline contrast?
    Borderline = screening decision could go either way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arvin Lienardi View Post
    Does no.1 have contrast issue because of the sun doesnt shone to the plane due to covered by clouds?
    Correct.

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    I have some photos that im not sure that it could pass screening process not, i'd be glad if any screener could share their opinions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arvin Lienardi View Post
    I have some photos that im not sure that it could pass screening process not, i'd be glad if any screener could share their opinions
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    All three have low acceptance chances: dark, contrast, soft. Main culprit for the exposure seems to be the overcast sky.

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    recently i got several photos rejected due to jpeg compression artefacts. I have all my workflow to be the same, didn't crop it too much and save in the highest quality available in photoshop and save it once.

    here are several of it
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    please ignore the contrast rejection , i just need to figure out why the artefacts appear which previously did not happen with al my photos previously
    Thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arvin Lienardi View Post
    recently i got several photos rejected due to jpeg compression artefacts. I have all my workflow to be the same, didn't crop it too much and save in the highest quality available in photoshop and save it once.
    If I had to guess, the last step of that process would seem the most likely culprit. The images are compressed, and the file sizes is only ~ 250k, when I would expect closer to 400k for images of that resolution. Most likely you're not actually saving at as high a quality setting as you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlowwa View Post
    If I had to guess, the last step of that process would seem the most likely culprit. The images are compressed, and the file sizes is only ~ 250k, when I would expect closer to 400k for images of that resolution. Most likely you're not actually saving at as high a quality setting as you think.
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    this is my usual jpg setting in saving it from photoshop. However, it still show horrible compression on the sky area when i use "check for dust" tool from the website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arvin Lienardi View Post
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    this is my usual jpg setting in saving it from photoshop. However, it still show horrible compression on the sky area when i use "check for dust" tool from the website.
    Are you using some kind of noise reducer? This can also add that effect.

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