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  • #91
    Originally posted by dlowwa View Post
    1. ok
    2. overprocessed, blurry (tail)
    3. ok
    4. overprocessed
    5. horizon

    thx dlowwa

    #2. overprocessed, blurry (tail)
    in the original photo... the tail is perfect, 100% in focus... however due to the flatness of color and detail... when resizing it... it get worst and no detailled is passed.
    Tried several ways..but no luck..

    can you please review these ? thx

    /rgds
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    • #92
      Wind changed direction, birds bound south.... can you please review these big birds ? thx
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      • #93
        Originally posted by a.m. View Post
        Wind changed direction, birds bound south.... can you please review these big birds ? thx
        1-3 angle seems a little steep, and contrast a bit flat
        4. ok
        5. centering, borderline contrast

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        • #94
          Thx dlowwa

          can you please review these ?
          and if you don't mind can you please also comment on the shadows ?

          Basically I'm trying to understand what's an acceptable shadow and/or if there's the need to process it.

          The 1 and 2 , doesn't have shadow processing, while 3,4,5 does have it.

          thanks again for your time and help
          /rgds
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          • #95
            Originally posted by a.m. View Post
            Thx dlowwa

            can you please review these ?
            and if you don't mind can you please also comment on the shadows ?

            Basically I'm trying to understand what's an acceptable shadow and/or if there's the need to process it.

            The 1 and 2 , doesn't have shadow processing, while 3,4,5 does have it.

            thanks again for your time and help
            /rgds
            1. centering, overprocessed (editing halos)
            2-4 overprocessed
            5. compression

            Shadows not an issue on any of them.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by dlowwa View Post
              1. centering, overprocessed (editing halos)
              2-4 overprocessed
              5. compression

              Shadows not an issue on any of them.
              Thx dlowwa

              #Shadows not an issue on any of them
              Great. This will simplify a lot my processing workflow.

              Now, let's look at the overprocessed issue.
              This has been a recurrent issue and I need some (extra) help to try to correct it.
              Specifically TAP planes are prone to this... lots of primary colors, (small) black letters on white background... details, details..

              As such, can you please review this set ?

              They have no processing/adjust at all, not in camera, not previous to resizing , not after, none at all.

              They are as they come from the camera.

              So, are they acceptable ?

              If not what do you suggest ?
              1) a tade of sharpening in all the plane ?
              2) a tade of sharpening in specific locals : everywhere... but not in letters ?
              3) a tade of sharpening just in letters ?

              thanks again for your time and help

              /rgds
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              • #97
                Originally posted by a.m. View Post
                Thx dlowwa

                #Shadows not an issue on any of them
                Great. This will simplify a lot my processing workflow.

                Now, let's look at the overprocessed issue.
                This has been a recurrent issue and I need some (extra) help to try to correct it.
                Specifically TAP planes are prone to this... lots of primary colors, (small) black letters on white background... details, details..

                As such, can you please review this set ?

                They have no processing/adjust at all, not in camera, not previous to resizing , not after, none at all.

                They are as they come from the camera.

                So, are they acceptable ?
                No halo issues with these images.

                Originally posted by a.m. View Post
                If not what do you suggest ?
                1) a tade of sharpening in all the plane ?
                2) a tade of sharpening in specific locals : everywhere... but not in letters ?
                3) a tade of sharpening just in letters ?
                As I've said before, sharpening has nothing to do with the types of halos you're seeing.

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                • #98
                  Thx dlowwa

                  Based on your comments I'm now simplifying a bit the overwall processing.
                  Just a bit of ligth... and a highpass filter to sharpen the plane layer after resizing.
                  No luminance, no noise reduction, no color balance, no nothing... so, if the end result isn't good, let's move to another photo.
                  (Additional to that, I'm also expecting that the Autumn's photo season will bring clear photos, due to less haze, clean and cold air. )

                  Can you please then review these, accordingly to the "new rules"?

                  Thanks again for your time and help
                  /rgds
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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by a.m. View Post
                    Thx dlowwa

                    Based on your comments I'm now simplifying a bit the overwall processing.
                    Just a bit of ligth... and a highpass filter to sharpen the plane layer after resizing.
                    No luminance, no noise reduction, no color balance, no nothing... so, if the end result isn't good, let's move to another photo.
                    (Additional to that, I'm also expecting that the Autumn's photo season will bring clear photos, due to less haze, clean and cold air. )

                    Can you please then review these, accordingly to the "new rules"?

                    Thanks again for your time and help
                    /rgds
                    1-3 overprocessed
                    4-5 borderline contrast

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                    • Originally posted by dlowwa View Post
                      1-3 overprocessed
                      4-5 borderline contrast
                      Thx dlowwa

                      I must admit I'm a bit lost now.
                      The only processing I've applied was a HighPass sharpen filter ( with minimum values ) ..
                      .. as such I need your help in other to learn identify where the overprocessing can be seen.

                      are the strong defined black letters the reason of the overprocessing ?
                      or are the strong primary colors the reason ?

                      Once again thanks for your time and help

                      /rgds
                      a.m.

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                      • Originally posted by a.m. View Post
                        I must admit I'm a bit lost now.
                        The only processing I've applied was a HighPass sharpen filter ( with minimum values ) ..
                        .. as such I need your help in other to learn identify where the overprocessing can be seen.

                        are the strong defined black letters the reason of the overprocessing ?
                        or are the strong primary colors the reason ?
                        No, same reason as before - editing halos visible around fuselage. Much easier to see equalized:

                        #1 - strong editing halos Click image for larger version

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                        • Originally posted by dlowwa View Post
                          No, same reason as before - editing halos visible around fuselage. Much easier to see equalized:

                          #1 - strong editing halos [ATTACH=CONFIG]18407[/ATTACH]

                          #4 - nothing noticeable [ATTACH=CONFIG]18408[/ATTACH]
                          ah... no wonder I coudln't identify/notice : (halos, overprocessing) ... I was trying to see them at "naked eye" in the original photo.
                          While this equalized view is where I should be using to look for the problem.

                          So, for the other issues : (borderline, contrast, compression ) is there any other view/tool/report that can/should be used to identify them ?
                          Is there any automated workflow to analyze the quality of a photo ?

                          thx

                          /rgds
                          a.m.

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                          • Originally posted by a.m. View Post
                            ah... no wonder I coudln't identify/notice : (halos, overprocessing) ... I was trying to see them at "naked eye" in the original photo.
                            While this equalized view is where I should be using to look for the problem.

                            So, for the other issues : (borderline, contrast, compression ) is there any other view/tool/report that can/should be used to identify them ?
                            Is there any automated workflow to analyze the quality of a photo ?

                            thx

                            /rgds
                            a.m.
                            No, the problem is easy to see with the naked eye. I posted the equalized versions simply because you seemed to be having issues seeing them yourself, or even understanding what I was talking about.

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                            • Originally posted by dlowwa View Post
                              No, the problem is easy to see with the naked eye. I posted the equalized versions simply because you seemed to be having issues seeing them yourself, or even understanding what I was talking about.
                              Thx dlowwa

                              #I posted the equalized versions simply because you seemed to be having issues seeing them yourself, or even understanding what I was talking about.
                              You are 100% correct on both

                              There are halos and halos.... and I coudln't see these "small" color depressions in the sky...
                              Then the word "overprocessed" just lead me to look at oversharpen ...

                              I need now a training course on the Airport's XRay security scanner system...

                              So let's see if I can start to use the equalize function to post acceptable photos.

                              1) this clearly shows halos and the borderline problems ..correct ?
                              2) in this case the borderline is the problem ... correct ?
                              3,4,5 ) these photos looks ok, regarding halos and borderline.. correct ?

                              thx again for your time and patience... (I hope) I'll get there one of these days

                              /rgds
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                              • Originally posted by a.m. View Post
                                Thx dlowwa

                                #I posted the equalized versions simply because you seemed to be having issues seeing them yourself, or even understanding what I was talking about.
                                You are 100% correct on both

                                There are halos and halos.... and I coudln't see these "small" color depressions in the sky...
                                Then the word "overprocessed" just lead me to look at oversharpen ...

                                I need now a training course on the Airport's XRay security scanner system...

                                So let's see if I can start to use the equalize function to post acceptable photos.

                                1) this clearly shows halos and the borderline problems ..correct ?
                                2) in this case the borderline is the problem ... correct ?
                                3,4,5 ) these photos looks ok, regarding halos and borderline.. correct ?

                                thx again for your time and patience... (I hope) I'll get there one of these days

                                /rgds
                                Only the first one is really obvious, but again, the equalized versions are not what will be screened. The halos need to be visible on the uploaded version to actually be an issue.

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