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    Dear All

    are you so kind to comment on these images taken at dawn ?
    thank you for your time and help.

    /rgds
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    Default pre-screen photos

    Dear All

    are you so kind to (also) comment on these photos ?

    thanks for your time and help

    /rgds
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    Quote Originally Posted by a.m. View Post
    Dear All

    are you so kind to comment on these images taken at dawn ?
    thank you for your time and help.

    /rgds
    1) only images edited for upload will be pre-screened. These are all well beyond the maximum size allowed for upload.
    2) please limit your pre-screening requests to a maximum of 5 images per 24 hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlowwa View Post
    1) only images edited for upload will be pre-screened. These are all well beyond the maximum size allowed for upload.
    2) please limit your pre-screening requests to a maximum of 5 images per 24 hours.
    Thx dlowwa

    Sorry, didn't knew about the size limitation for pre-screening.

    Here's then a subset of them with (hopefully) the correct size 1280x720.


    thanks again for your time and help

    /rgds
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    Quote Originally Posted by a.m. View Post
    Thx dlowwa

    Sorry, didn't knew about the size limitation for pre-screening.

    Here's then a subset of them with (hopefully) the correct size 1280x720.


    thanks again for your time and help

    /rgds
    These would be rejected for:

    1. soft, cut off, compression
    2. soft, compression
    3. soft, cut off, compression
    4-5 heat haze, compression

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlowwa View Post
    These would be rejected for:

    1. soft, cut off, compression
    2. soft, compression
    3. soft, cut off, compression
    4-5 heat haze, compression
    Thx dlowwa

    Well, it looks nothing can be saved here

    Let me try to understand the results

    SOFT could be :
    1) out of focus
    2) not good lens
    3) not good camera
    4) overall bad processing

    COMPRESSION could be:
    1) wrong jpeg compression options
    2) wrong software
    3) bad processsing also

    offcourse also bad photographer skills...

    So it looks I have a potential HW problem and/or a potential SW problem.

    HW just implies a new camera/lens...a no go at this moment.
    SW... could be solved
    Skills... well, who knows with time.

    As such, I need one more favour from you in order to decide my next steps.

    I'm including 3 files
    1) An original 24Mb RAW file. ( I couldn't load this 30Mb RAW file... ).
    So I've converted it to tiff and upload it here : www.flickr.com/photos/ajmm/43030731454
    .. and original 6000x4000 resolution
    2) A croped version in JPG format
    3) ..and a resize/croped versions in JPG format.

    Is there a change you can look at them and see if the original file is good enough....
    ..and therefore what is failling is the resize and or processing work ?

    ..or if the original file isn't good enough and therefore I should focus my hoobies somewhere else

    thanks again for your time help (and) patience

    /rgds
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    Quote Originally Posted by a.m. View Post
    Thx dlowwa

    Well, it looks nothing can be saved here

    Let me try to understand the results

    SOFT could be :
    1) out of focus
    2) not good lens
    3) not good camera
    4) overall bad processing

    COMPRESSION could be:
    1) wrong jpeg compression options
    2) wrong software
    3) bad processsing also

    offcourse also bad photographer skills...

    So it looks I have a potential HW problem and/or a potential SW problem.

    HW just implies a new camera/lens...a no go at this moment.
    SW... could be solved
    Skills... well, who knows with time.

    As such, I need one more favour from you in order to decide my next steps.

    I'm including 3 files
    1) An original 24Mb RAW file. ( I couldn't load this 30Mb RAW file... ).
    So I've converted it to tiff and upload it here : www.flickr.com/photos/ajmm/43030731454
    .. and original 6000x4000 resolution
    2) A croped version in JPG format
    3) ..and a resize/croped versions in JPG format.

    Is there a change you can look at them and see if the original file is good enough....
    ..and therefore what is failling is the resize and or processing work ?

    ..or if the original file isn't good enough and therefore I should focus my hoobies somewhere else

    thanks again for your time help (and) patience

    /rgds
    In this case, it actually helps that you posted the wrong size first. From those images, I can see that they are quite soft as well, and the whole frame, so that means focus error is not the main issue. Camera itself has little to do with sharpness, and since these are not processed, processing is not the issue either. That leaves lens softness as the likely culprit, though the exif has been stripped, so I can't tell if the settings have contributed to the problem.

    The full size images area also highly compressed, so somewhere along the line, either in camera or in processing, you've compressed the files.

    As for the uncropped images you've linked; also somewhat compressed, but not terribly, and still quite soft. Looks like it's a combination of lens softness and slight mis-focus, since the background looks a bit sharper than the aircraft. Try stopping down next time to f/9-10 as this should help reduce the lens & focusing problems. If you're working with RAW files (.nef), then also change your save settings when importing/converting to jpeg to make sure the quality is set at maximum, and that should alleviate the compression issues.

    The newer upload-sized edits look better, but still have issues with color/contrast, and compression.

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    I had two photos rejected for "horizont unlevel"

    https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=7009566
    https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=6986848

    In the first I tried to align using the antenna pole, and in the second the houses as vertical references, it looks this wasn't correct/didn't work.
    Anyway, this is a mistake I shouldn't be doing by now. Can you please guide me on solving it ? Should I use other references ? like signs and small poles in the runway ?

    thanks again for your time and help (... and Merry Christmas )

    /rgds
    a.m.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a.m. View Post
    I had two photos rejected for "horizont unlevel"

    https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=7009566
    https://www.jetphotos.com/viewqueued_b.php?id=6986848

    In the first I tried to align using the antenna pole, and in the second the houses as vertical references, it looks this wasn't correct/didn't work.
    Anyway, this is a mistake I shouldn't be doing by now. Can you please guide me on solving it ? Should I use other references ? like signs and small poles in the runway ?

    thanks again for your time and help (... and Merry Christmas )

    /rgds
    a.m.
    Both need CCW rotation as the background buildings are leaning right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlowwa View Post
    Both need CCW rotation as the background buildings are leaning right.
    Thx dlowwa. ah, damn, my eyes are fooling me (again)...those buildings are so small, that a little window can make the difference.
    Going back to the drawing board...

    /rgds
    a.m.

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    Now, that the Winter is here and on a harsh weather day ... could these be acceptable ?
    At least the contours of the planes looks well defined against the white backdrop.
    Sure, the Sun is a bit shy... so, the noise could be a bit to much than the normal.

    Thanks again for your time and help

    /rgds
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    Quote Originally Posted by a.m. View Post
    Now, that the Winter is here and on a harsh weather day ... could these be acceptable ?
    At least the contours of the planes looks well defined against the white backdrop.
    Sure, the Sun is a bit shy... so, the noise could be a bit to much than the normal.

    Thanks again for your time and help

    /rgds
    a.m.
    All would be rejected for soft, noise, compression, and contrast. None have the quality to be submitted at 1920pix.

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    Don't know where to report it... so

    Photo https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9334436 is incorrectly registered as CS-TOA - A340... where is should be CS-TUA - A330 Neo

    /rgds
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    Hi dlowwa

    After some months in this hobby, I thought I had learn a couple of things, but unfortunately I keep having rejections like: center, dark, rotation and even softness.

    My confidence is really low nowadays, I'm convinced I've the best photo in the world.. and then it's rejected. So I'm back again to basics, which means I'll bother you with some reviews, I'm sorry for that..

    Can you please then review these ? thx

    /rgds
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    Quote Originally Posted by a.m. View Post
    Hi dlowwa

    After some months in this hobby, I thought I had learn a couple of things, but unfortunately I keep having rejections like: center, dark, rotation and even softness.

    My confidence is really low nowadays, I'm convinced I've the best photo in the world.. and then it's rejected. So I'm back again to basics, which means I'll bother you with some reviews, I'm sorry for that..

    Can you please then review these ? thx

    /rgds
    a.m.
    1-2, 4-5 are all poorly centered, and have a couple of soft areas.
    3 is very soft and also compressed

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlowwa View Post
    1-2, 4-5 are all poorly centered, and have a couple of soft areas.
    3 is very soft and also compressed
    Thx dlowwa

    Usually I center the image by centering the plane in the central square
    However for this kind of angle (that I usually don't use) ... by centering it, based in the central square ..it doesn't look good, you as just mentioned.
    So what are the rules of engagement for this kind of angles ? center based on "envelope zone" of the plane ? or center based on the mass center of the plane

    Any one of these is ok

    #1 center of mass center
    #2 envelope center
    #3 center based on central square (original photo)

    /rgds
    thx
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    Quote Originally Posted by a.m. View Post
    Thx dlowwa

    Usually I center the image by centering the plane in the central square
    However for this kind of angle (that I usually don't use) ... by centering it, based in the central square ..it doesn't look good, you as just mentioned.
    So what are the rules of engagement for this kind of angles ? center based on "envelope zone" of the plane ? or center based on the mass center of the plane

    Any one of these is ok

    #1 center of mass center
    #2 envelope center
    #3 center based on central square (original photo)

    /rgds
    thx
    Personal preference of course, but if you're hoping to get it accepted here, #2 would be the way to go.

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