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  • #46
    Originally posted by dlowwa View Post
    Correct.
    Perfect.

    Here's then the catch of the day (special attention on blacks/shadows) for pre-screening. thx

    /rgds
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    • #47
      Originally posted by a.m. View Post
      Perfect.

      Here's then the catch of the day (special attention on blacks/shadows) for pre-screening. thx

      /rgds
      All borderline for contrast/overprocessed. Last one also soft. Like the other thread I just replied to, whatever it is you're doing in editing to boost the shadows is washing out the dark areas and leaving faint editing halos.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by dlowwa View Post
        All borderline for contrast/overprocessed. Last one also soft. Like the other thread I just replied to, whatever it is you're doing in editing to boost the shadows is washing out the dark areas and leaving faint editing halos.
        Thx dlowwa

        I see, I then request your advise on my workflow, which is

        1) select only photos 100% sharp out of the camera
        2) apply tons, curves, lights... using auto mode
        3) correct manually ..shadows, highs, blacks, color temperature,
        4) apply DIX def, pre-sharp
        5) crop, resize, export to jpeg
        6) open jpeg,
        7) apply high pass filter (0.5-1)
        8 ) photo is sharp and ok now.... but due to some jagged lines
        9) apply Blur Filter (0.3-0.5) 25-50 opacity
        10) photo should be ok now.... but it's soft
        11) apply a second HighPass (0.3)
        12) finish... but probably some blacks lines and letters, now do look overprocessed

        I notice that haze and clarity options does introduce some halos
        I notice that tons curves also create some halos efects.

        Can you then suggest/recommend some changes in my worflow ?

        here's a nedition, without haze, clarity, nix def, pre-sharp ...
        Just auto tons, color and an HighPass filter after resizing.

        Does it look better? are the halos gone ? ( I'm talking about halos...but I hardly can see then...I hope...I have identify the problem )

        thx again for your time and help
        /rgds
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        • #49
          Originally posted by a.m. View Post
          Thx dlowwa

          I see, I then request your advise on my workflow, which is

          1) select only photos 100% sharp out of the camera
          2) apply tons, curves, lights... using auto mode
          3) correct manually ..shadows, highs, blacks, color temperature,
          4) apply DIX def, pre-sharp
          5) crop, resize, export to jpeg
          6) open jpeg,
          7) apply high pass filter (0.5-1)
          8 ) photo is sharp and ok now.... but due to some jagged lines
          9) apply Blur Filter (0.3-0.5) 25-50 opacity
          10) photo should be ok now.... but it's soft
          11) apply a second HighPass (0.3)
          12) finish... but probably some blacks lines and letters, now do look overprocessed

          I notice that haze and clarity options does introduce some halos
          I notice that tons curves also create some halos efects.

          Can you then suggest/recommend some changes in my worflow ?

          here's a nedition, without haze, clarity, nix def, pre-sharp ...
          Just auto tons, color and an HighPass filter after resizing.

          Does it look better? are the halos gone ? ( I'm talking about halos...but I hardly can see then...I hope...I have identify the problem )

          thx again for your time and help
          /rgds
          Looks acceptable to me. Clarity is a known cause of halos, as is D-lighting mode in Nikon cameras. Any adjustment to boost shadows or reduce highlights can often cause halos.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by a.m. View Post
            Thx dlowwa

            I see, I then request your advise on my workflow, which is

            1) select only photos 100% sharp out of the camera
            2) apply tons, curves, lights... using auto mode
            3) correct manually ..shadows, highs, blacks, color temperature,
            4) apply DIX def, pre-sharp
            5) crop, resize, export to jpeg
            6) open jpeg,
            7) apply high pass filter (0.5-1)
            8 ) photo is sharp and ok now.... but due to some jagged lines
            9) apply Blur Filter (0.3-0.5) 25-50 opacity
            10) photo should be ok now.... but it's soft
            11) apply a second HighPass (0.3)
            12) finish... but probably some blacks lines and letters, now do look overprocessed

            I notice that haze and clarity options does introduce some halos
            I notice that tons curves also create some halos efects.

            Can you then suggest/recommend some changes in my worflow ?

            here's a nedition, without haze, clarity, nix def, pre-sharp ...
            Just auto tons, color and an HighPass filter after resizing.

            Does it look better? are the halos gone ? ( I'm talking about halos...but I hardly can see then...I hope...I have identify the problem )

            thx again for your time and help
            /rgds
            That is a lot of post processing in my opinion. BTW: The auto mode in 2) is also known to create halos.
            My photos on Flickr www.flickr.com/photos/geridominguez

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            • #51
              what an incredible complicated workflow :

              Here's mine on an approach shot like this one :
              - Open the pic on LR
              - crop if needed
              - adjust horizon if needed
              - apply some sharpening and noise reduction
              - add a tad of saturation if needed
              - correct the exposure if needed
              - Export to PS
              - Get rid of the dust spot if needed
              - sharpen
              resize by step (5000 to 3000 to 1920) and final sharpening

              Done - if you spend more than 3min on an approach shot like this one, imho that's too much

              And yeah, like Gerardo said, auto anything is something to avoid - I would never touch the tones btw as they do create haloes + very unnatural colours

              cheers
              Alex

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              • #52
                Thx dlowwa, lx-a343, Alex


                #Clarity is a known cause of halos, as is D-lighting mode in Nikon cameras. Any adjustment to boost shadows or reduce highlights can often cause halos.
                Ok, I'll try to avoid any additonal processing.

                BTW, is there any way to identify Hallos, other the naked eye ? an histogram ? any specific functions ?
                The fact is I'm having problems identify it... the way I may find it is when applying any processing I can see a kind of glow around the image...


                #That is a lot of post processing in my opinion. BTW: The auto mode in 2) is also known to create halos.
                #what an incredible complicated workflow :

                I couldn't agree more, I went to youtube and tried to learn what thecniques were recommended for aviation photos editing, so I've end up with that
                Ok, I'm simplifying it now ...

                Unfortunately I can't use 1920, just 1280px wide images, and reducimg a 20/24MPIXEL image to 1Mpixel... does introduced so artifacts.
                So what do you recommend to reduce compression artifacts/jagged lines , other than the Blur filter step ?
                Offcourse, sometimes the compression algorithms works better : colors, sharpness and planes logos/letthering all get sharp and clean, so there's no need for the blur step.


                What you think of these, new spot new angle, less processing

                thanks you all again, for your comments and help

                /rgds
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by a.m. View Post
                  BTW, is there any way to identify Hallos, other the naked eye ? an histogram ? any specific functions ?
                  The fact is I'm having problems identify it... the way I may find it is when applying any processing I can see a kind of glow around the image...
                  If you can see a glow, those are halos.


                  Originally posted by a.m. View Post
                  Unfortunately I can't use 1920, just 1280px wide images, and reducimg a 20/24MPIXEL image to 1Mpixel... does introduced so artifacts.
                  So what do you recommend to reduce compression artifacts/jagged lines , other than the Blur filter step ?
                  Offcourse, sometimes the compression algorithms works better : colors, sharpness and planes logos/letthering all get sharp and clean, so there's no need for the blur step.
                  If you reduce the images correctly, and save at max quality, compression should not be an issue, whether it's at 1920, 1280, or 1024.


                  Originally posted by a.m. View Post
                  What you think of these, new spot new angle, less processing
                  1. borderline dark/contrast, and slightly low in frame
                  2. ok
                  3-4 soft, color, overprocessed (very strong halos)

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                  • #54
                    Thx dlowwa

                    How about these two ?

                    /rgds
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by a.m. View Post
                      Thx dlowwa

                      How about these two ?

                      /rgds
                      1. borderline (low) contrast/compression
                      2. ok

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by dlowwa View Post
                        1. borderline (low) contrast/compression
                        2. ok
                        Thx dlowwa

                        how about this one ?

                        /rgds
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by a.m. View Post
                          Thx dlowwa

                          how about this one ?

                          /rgds
                          Low contrast.

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                          • #58
                            any better ?
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by a.m. View Post
                              any better ?
                              No, still low contrast. Editing halos also more visible now.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by dlowwa View Post
                                No, still low contrast. Editing halos also more visible now.
                                Thx. Probably I need to start working with layers, isolating the plane and working on new tons,colours just in the sky.

                                how about this one ?

                                /rgds
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