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    Quote Originally Posted by brianw999 View Post
    If you can get a D7100 for 430 with a lens then I would say “take their fingers off”. I have a D7200 and am very happy with the image quality.
    It’s on eBay, for body https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F183623296949 for Lens https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F153344521022

    By the term ‘take their finger off’ I assume you mean get it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seahawk View Post
    Or go FF with a good looking D700:

    https://www.harrisoncameras.co.uk/pd...y_used-2139671

    and with this lens (used) it would give you a lot bang for the money

    https://www.harrisoncameras.co.uk/pd...s_used-2933226

    or a hardly used D300S

    https://www.camerajungle.co.uk/produ...0s-body/165036

    and a mint 70-300

    https://www.camerajungle.co.uk/produ...vr-lens/166654
    For 320 the D7100 isn’t much more and it’s a fair bit better in terms of stats (no idea on actuallly shooting), the lenses seem awfully expensive 300 compared to 100 and less on eBay

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    Just with many more clicks on the body and no warranty. And the lens is not the same. Mine is the newer AF-S 70-300VR, yours is the old AF 70-300G - which is inferior and the product description is questionable as it gives Nikon 1 as mount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seahawk View Post
    Just with many more clicks on the body and no warranty. And the lens is not the same. Mine is the newer AF-S 70-300VR, yours is the old AF 70-300G - which is inferior and the product description is questionable as it gives Nikon 1 as mount.
    What's the difference? I know with 3rd party lenses you lose sharpness, that's apparently why all my photos shot with my tamron lens are soft.

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    Scrap the Nikon D7100 for 430 it'll be 500 atleast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Quinn View Post
    What's the difference? I know with 3rd party lenses you lose sharpness, that's apparently why all my photos shot with my tamron lens are soft.
    The difference between the 2 is that the AF-S version is considered a very good 70-300 which gives good results and is considered sharp. It focuses quickly and has the VR which helps with low shutter speeds. The old AF 70-300 is considered bad when it comes to image quality, the AF is slow and it has no VR. When the AF-S version came out most Nikon shooters rejoiced, that Nikon finally made a good 70-300.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Quinn View Post
    It’s on eBay, for body https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F183623296949 for Lens https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F153344521022

    By the term ‘take their finger off’ I assume you mean get it?
    It’s a British saying to indicate taking possession of a bargain before the seller changes their mind.
    If it 'ain't broken........ Don't try to mend it !


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    Quote Originally Posted by brianw999 View Post
    It’s a British saying to indicate taking possession of a bargain before the seller changes their mind.
    I see what you mean now, I can't find many D7100 for under 400 in decent condition, quite a few 7D's under 300 however. If we're being honest I think the D7100 is a little too much for my budget, nonetheless a great camera but just a little too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seahawk View Post
    The difference between the 2 is that the AF-S version is considered a very good 70-300 which gives good results and is considered sharp. It focuses quickly and has the VR which helps with low shutter speeds. The old AF 70-300 is considered bad when it comes to image quality, the AF is slow and it has no VR. When the AF-S version came out most Nikon shooters rejoiced, that Nikon finally made a good 70-300.
    Is that why it costs a lot more? And is that the same for all -S lenses, like EF/EF-S

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Quinn View Post
    ...And is that the same for all -S lenses, like EF/EF-S
    The Canon nomenclature is different. EF-S lenses are for cropped sensor bodies and don't fit full frame cameras. It is not an indicator of lens quality or value. The Canon DSLRs you listed are all cropped sensor and can use both EF and EF-S lenses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quebec Golf View Post
    The Canon nomenclature is different. EF-S lenses are for cropped sensor bodies and don't fit full frame cameras. It is not an indicator of lens quality or value. The Canon DSLRs you listed are all cropped sensor and can use both EF and EF-S lenses.
    I see, what's the benefit of Full-Frame Cameras? I might just stick with the 7D with 18-55mm EF-S lens and a 70-300mm AF lens then maybe replace the 300mm one with a 500mm one, but that will be in quite a few more years time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Quinn View Post
    I see, what's the benefit of Full-Frame Cameras?
    Low light shooting, less noise, wide angle of view at a given lens focal length and probably other things I haven't thought about. I'm sure someone who uses a full frame can fill us in. A major disadvantage of a full-frame for aviation photography is that you don't get the benefit of having more magnification with your zoom lenses like you do on a cropped frame camera. A 300mm lens on a camera with a crop factor of 1.5x would have the zoom of a 450mm. But put it on a full-frame an it's just a 300mm again.

    And oh yeah, full-frames are expensive.


    I might just stick with the 7D with 18-55mm EF-S lens and a 70-300mm AF lens then maybe replace the 300mm one with a 500mm one, but that will be in quite a few more years time.
    I guess you mean 70-300mm EF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Quinn View Post
    Is that why it costs a lot more? And is that the same for all -S lenses, like EF/EF-S
    Well it costs more because it also did cost more new and that was warranted due to the much better quality of the lens. However you can not say that every AF-S lens is such a clear improvement over the non AF. For example AF 80-200D vs. AF-S 70-200VR is much more give and take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quebec Golf View Post
    Low light shooting, less noise, wide angle of view at a given lens focal length and probably other things I haven't thought about. I'm sure someone who uses a full frame can fill us in. A major disadvantage of a full-frame for aviation photography is that you don't get the benefit of having more magnification with your zoom lenses like you do on a cropped frame camera. A 300mm lens on a camera with a crop factor of 1.5x would have the zoom of a 450mm. But put it on a full-frame an it's just a 300mm again.

    And oh yeah, full-frames are expensive.



    I guess you mean 70-300mm EF?
    Correct EF not AF

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