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    Quote Originally Posted by pawelm View Post
    1) Well, LHR is BA's main hub, so where you would expect A380 to be? It's the same stuff with Emirates, Etihad, Air France, Singapore Airlines etc. All of their A380s are flying from main hubs.
    2) As for Germany - this one is differrent, because LH has two main hubs - Munich also has A380 flights. Daily. Btw, I don't recall any German airport, apart from FRA, that has LH's B747 daily ops
    Wow. I just thought, after all these years, I'm able to learn something new. But after all, we talk about this bird, don't we. At EDDL, even twice daily (!). Here it is.
    The A380, twice daily at Lohausen, March 2019.

    I never said that EDDL officially is a LH-B748 airport. But I was able to find this one in the jp database. Now the task for you, was it an alternate for Rhein/Main, due to weather? Or was it just a friendly visit by my cute little bird. I just tried to edit my #19, but then you came along. ... The 747 sound. On idle, a rather quiet bass guitar. But then you put your hand on the throttle quadrant. And then the lead guitars step in. The A380 also has a bass guitar, but imho only 1 bird starts to whistle when U accelerate her. Uncomparable, and again, Thanks alot to Captain Randazzo. He quite perfectly captured my avatar! Here it is. And I still love her, after all those years.

    LH-B748 at Lohausen, February 2018.
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    LH also has a intercontinental history, the Hamburg - Düsseldorf - Shannon - NYC route, open since June 1st, 1955.
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    The operator on the DUS - NYC route, on the DUS - BKK route, and on the shiny new DUS - LAS nonstop route? EW, one of the dearest LH daughters .

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    Quote Originally Posted by pawelm View Post
    1) Well, LHR is BA's main hub, so where you would expect A380 to be? It's the same stuff with Emirates, Etihad, Qatar, Air France, Singapore Airlines etc. All of their A380s are flying from main hubs.
    2) As for Germany - this one is differrent, because LH has two main hubs - Munich also has A380 flights. Daily. Btw, I don't recall any German airport, apart from FRA, that has LH's B747 daily ops, so according to your logic it should be retired long time ago.
    Quote Originally Posted by LH-B744 View Post
    Wow. I just thought, after all these years, I'm able to learn something new. But after all, we talk about this bird, don't we. At EDDL, even twice daily (!). Here it is.
    The A380, twice daily at Lohausen, March 2019.

    I never said that EDDL officially is a LH-B748 airport. But I was able to find this one in the jp database. Now the task for you, was it an alternate for Rhein/Main, due to weather? Or was it just a friendly visit by my cute little bird. I just tried to edit my #19, but then you came along. ... (...)

    Come on LH-B744... it was pretty obvious what he meant... Lufthansa flies the A380 out of Frankfurt and out of Munich, whereas regular 747 ops are only based out of Frankfurt. Any pilot should be able and trained to land their A380 as well as their 747 at any suitable airport in Germany and adjacent countries in case weather or emergencies make it necessary (although I assume the operations centers of the various airlines will send diversions to airports that can handle an A380 or 747 logistically and concerning possible accommodation requirements for a large number of stranded passengers). Apart from that there are a whole bunch of airports around Europe that get regular A380 traffic (and I dare say a lot more than get 747 traffic), even if it's only the once or twice daily Emirates "Dubai shuttle".

    But back on topic... ultmimately, the 747 and the A380 died or are dieing of the same problems: too big (to fill economicaly on most routes), too costly (to operate with four engines), too unflexible (to meet changing demands). The reason the 747 was a success is that it is the child of a different time and age. But the 747 would be in the twilight of its career by now, regardless of Airbus putting forth the A380 or keeping it on the shelves (where - as we now know - it belonged).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Kesternich View Post
    Come on LH-B744... it was pretty obvious what he meant... Lufthansa flies the A380 out of Frankfurt and out of Munich, [...]
    That's the newest fact which I have learned since I am here!

    Until this thursday, I was completely convinced that Lufthansa only knows 1 international airport for LH pilots with three type ratings, 744, 748 and 388:
    Rhein/Main.

    So, LH-A388 also start from the new Munich airport (since 1992, Landkreis Erding)?! It must be the tiny difference between us, oh you didn't really delete your airport code, I just thought you also had it in your 'location', you look South, and only South from Wahnerheide, don't you.

    My viewpoint is more like, between Flensburg and Leinfelden-Echterdingen. That includes the Dutch Diesel here at jetphotos. So, you could ask me, let's go to Schiphol when they receive their first KL-A359. That btw is less than 100 nautical miles away from here, Spohr and the men who owned his position before him always start to protest when I say, Schiphol from my viewpoint is closer than Rhein/Main. I should finally end this discussion, with a (dt:_) Lineal.

    So, LH-A388 routes which start in Erdinger Moos?! Don't say KSFO. That's my avatar.
    LH also has a intercontinental history, the Hamburg - Düsseldorf - Shannon - NYC route, open since June 1st, 1955.
    A/C type: Lockheed Super Constellation.
    The operator on the DUS - NYC route, on the DUS - BKK route, and on the shiny new DUS - LAS nonstop route? EW, one of the dearest LH daughters .

    Aviation enthusiast since more than 30 years. A whole decade here on this platform.

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    So to end the discussion, Schiphol or Rhein/Main..

    DUS - AMS : 230 km, 2 hours and 20 minutes in a hopefully rather fast car. Fiat 500 Abarth
    (140 hp, 0-100 km/h in 7.9 seconds, vmax 205 km/h)

    DUS - FRA : 234 km, 2 hours and 23 minutes in the same car.

    You better don't try to compete with somebody who since more than 30 years knows his little Lohausen International Airport!

    PS: I just asked my favorite airline. My #23 only was a rough guess! 10 seconds ago they confirmed it:
    LH #458, Erdinger Moos 1635 local CET - and they arrive in the SF Bay at 1935, flight duration 12 hours and zero minutes. So, am I able to know my favorite airline by intuition. And I am a little mean guy, let me compare that to the
    Lufthansa Winter Schedule January 2010..
    LH #454, Rhein/Main 0955 local CET - In the SF Bay at 1220, flight duration 11 hours and 25 minutes. type?

    Well in my eyes SFO stays a LH-B744 destination.

    You have to trust me, until you told me, I had no idea that there is a second German International airport for LH-A388 flights, besides Rhein/Main!
    Last edited by LH-B744; 03-14-2019 at 01:59 AM. Reason: Sorry, somewhen during the nightshift I seem to have lost the "don't "
    LH also has a intercontinental history, the Hamburg - Düsseldorf - Shannon - NYC route, open since June 1st, 1955.
    A/C type: Lockheed Super Constellation.
    The operator on the DUS - NYC route, on the DUS - BKK route, and on the shiny new DUS - LAS nonstop route? EW, one of the dearest LH daughters .

    Aviation enthusiast since more than 30 years. A whole decade here on this platform.

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