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    Default Southwest cancels multiple flights and declares "operational emergency"

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/...orth-watching/

    If I remember my elementary statistics and Poisson theory correctly, the probability of 40 or more aircraft randomly experiencing mechanical issues simultaneously in a fleet of 700 is astonishingly low, assuming the mean is just 2-3 aircraft per day. Anyone care to speculate (or know?) what's happening with Southwest's 737s?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flashcrash View Post
    Anyone care to speculate (or know?) what's happening with Southwest's 737s?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Unions.
    MBAs and Six Sigma and LEAN methods.
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    They are all 737-Max and nobody knows how to fly them.

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    Ah yes all the -700s being grounded are MAXes. Thanks for your valuable insight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by klaxspotting View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Evan View Post
    They are all 737-Max and nobody knows how to fly them.
    Ah yes all the -700s being grounded are MAXes. Thanks for your valuable insight!
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    Anyone think there might be a connection with recent events?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flashcrash View Post
    Anyone think there might be a connection with recent events?
    From what I read yesterday, the 737-MAX accounts for a little over 6% of Southwest's ASM's, so I don't think the groundings will have an 'emergency' impact. (And blue font is sarcasm - I didn't seriously think this was a MAX issue in my previous post - although it turned out to be a bit of a harbinger...).

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    The sarcasm interpretation level here is very low...

    I know Evan tends towards lack and white, but I didn't have any trouble interpreting his comment that all SWA 737's are -MinLavs. His sense of humour is good...

    Then again, I am, on extremely rare circumstances, a bit sarcastic...It's generally a good indication that a largely inaccurate statement might be sarcastic.
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    Default 3BS Survives near-death experience...

    Rode a 737-not-max with a really nasty orange-blue livery today.

    We left on time.

    The plane was very full and a bit uncomfortable.

    We arrived on time.

    I got a cup of OJ and a bag of pretzels.

    I did not did died.

    I noted two slightly unique things:

    1: Textbook upwind roll inputs on the takeoff roll- I was on the upwind side. Somewhat noticeable spoiler deflection at the beginning of the takeoff roll...then progressively lowered as we increased speed...then more of an as-needed response as we got near lift off. I know this is done in the industry, but it's very rare that I have noticed crosswind inputs on giant, heavy, wind-resistant airliners.

    2: We float past the fixed distance marker...a little more nose up- and then a final little shove down to a slightly firm planting...I'm sure it happens sometimes- but usually I cannot detect a little nose-over to force touchdown.
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