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    Default Lufthansa orders 787-9

    Well - they managed to surprise me there... For sure I thought they would have stayed with the A350 and only the A350...

    https://newsroom.lufthansagroup.com/...5-391be31d4600

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    It has not been confirmed where the 787s will go (Lufthansa, Swiss, or Austrian). Swiss and Austrian have Boeing long haul fleets, so I wouldn’t be surprised, but with the addition of the 777X to Lufthansa’s mainline fleet coming in the near future, I could see the 787 as well (they 777X and 787 share a type rating)

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    The link I posted shows a picture of a 787-9 in Lufthansa colours... I take that as a hint...

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    they also posted 789 in Swiss colors so.... Let's wait and see

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    They posted it in all 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Kesternich View Post
    Well - they managed to surprise me there... For sure I thought they would have stayed with the A350 and only the A350...

    https://newsroom.lufthansagroup.com/...5-391be31d4600
    LH also purchased 20 more A350 aircraft
    Reuters (3/13) reports that Lufthansa “has ordered 20 Boeing 787-9 and 20 additional Airbus A350-900 long-haul planes to replace its older four-engine aircraft as it seeks to boost the fuel efficiency of its fleet, the airlines group said on Wednesday.” In a statement, Lufthansa CEO Carsten Spohr said, “In addition to the cost-effectiveness of the A350 and B787, the significantly lower CO2 emissions of this new generation of long-haul aircraft was also a decisive factor in our investment decision.” Lufthansa also “said it has also agreed to sell six of its 14 Airbus A380 planes back to Airbus in 2022/2023 for economic reasons.” The German airline did not provide a purchase price, and it indicated that deliveries of the 40 new passenger jets are expected “between late 2022 and 2027.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Kesternich View Post
    Well - they managed to surprise me there... For sure I thought they would have stayed with the A350 and only the A350...

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    You are so few kilometers away from here. I thought you sometimes see.. not necessarily my avatar, but two or three or five a/c types which are in the air for the newsroom who you quoted.

    A350 and only A350, for what. Fifteen A359 (until today, obviously the LH en wiki counts them..) for three intercontinental airports in Germany which are served by LH long haul specialists?
    FRA, MUC and DUS. That would make only five long haul jets per airport. You underestimate the Lufthansa, don't you.

    Plus thirteen LH-B744. And now you better don't ask for what. Lol.

    Plus nineteen LH-B748. Et cetera.

    You see, the A359 fleet by now is one of the smallest within the LH (!), way smaller than the LH 747 fleet.

    PS: Back on topic. En wiki says, the LH 78 79 was ordered to replace the 343. Everybody replaces the 343, even the German Federal President. He changes to the A359.

    Only one 4 engined long haul jet is in the air since more than 50 years..

    @ KLAX. Take it as a hint, when the LH en wiki (excluding all subsidiaries) says, twenty 78 79 are ordered. Very probably in LH colors. Otherwise it would have been mentioned in the OS en wiki, imho.

    I just wonder when LH ceased to be a 'Boeing only' airline. 1985 or something like that. So. It seems as if LH will not reach that state again, 40 years later. 748, 78 79, ...
    But during the next years, three or four LH pilots will visit Boeing to pick up one or two new jets.
    Last edited by LH-B744; 04-12-2019 at 04:07 AM. Reason: Boeing only (almost).
    LH also has a intercontinental history, the Hamburg - Düsseldorf - Shannon - NYC route, open since June 1st, 1955.
    A/C type: Lockheed Super Constellation.
    The airline code since a few weeks is no longer LH, but the operator stays the same on the DUS - NYC route ...

    Aviation enthusiast since more than 30 years. A whole decade here on this platform.

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    Dear LH-B744, let's get a few things straight...

    Quote Originally Posted by LH-B744 View Post
    (...) A350 and only A350, for what. Fifteen A359 (until today, obviously the LH en wiki counts them..) for three intercontinental airports in Germany which are served by LH long haul specialists?
    FRA, MUC and DUS. That would make only five long haul jets per airport.
    According to Airbus' website, Lufthansa has ordered 45 A350-900, 14 of which have been delivered. There is no mention of A350s for the other airlines in Lufthansa Group on the website, so for the time being let's assume all 45 will end up with Lufthansa proper, especially since - as far as I recall - there hasn't been any mention of A350s for any other airline in the Lufthansa Group.


    Quote Originally Posted by LH-B744 View Post
    (...) You underestimate the Lufthansa, don't you. (...)
    I have absolutely no idea what makes you say that...

    Quote Originally Posted by LH-B744 View Post
    (...) You see, the A359 fleet by now is one of the smallest within the LH (!), way smaller than the LH 747 fleet. (...)
    This sentence should read: You see, the A359 fleet at the moment is one of the smallest within the LH (!), smaller than the LH 747 fleet for now.


    Quote Originally Posted by LH-B744 View Post
    (...) Everybody replaces the 343, even the German Federal President. He changes to the A359. (...)
    Careful there... The German Federal president doesn't own and replace any aircraft like a third-world potentate or some Persian Gulf emir... The Bundeswehr (= German Armed Forces) is considering acquiring A350s for the Flugbereitschaft (= passenger wing of the German Air Force). And the reason for that is not the four engines, if you have followed German media in the past year.


    Quote Originally Posted by LH-B744 View Post
    (...) @ KLAX. Take it as a hint, when the LH en wiki (excluding all subsidiaries) says, twenty 78 79 are ordered. Very probably in LH colors. Otherwise it would have been mentioned in the OS en wiki, imho.
    Don't put too much trust in Wikipedia, when it comes to aircraft orders and placements... Sometimes the entries are out of date, and after all, Wikipedia has no different sources from you and me.


    Quote Originally Posted by LH-B744 View Post
    (...) I just wonder when LH ceased to be a 'Boeing only' airline. 1985 or something like that. (...)
    You need to get your historic facts straight. If my research is correct, Lufthansa was a 'Boeing only' airline for a mere three (3!) years of its history, between 1971 (when the Vickers Viscount was retired) and 1974 (when the McDonnell-Douglas DC-10-30 was introduced).

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