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    Default Helicopter crashes onto roof of Manhattan building in poor weather.


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    There's no way he could have landed on that roof. It's dominated by machinery and structures that most likely wouldn't bear the weight of the helicopter. I'm thinking, at best, he might have tried to land on the area on the east side of the roof and then the structure collapsed. I'm also thinking he must have had a flight control problem because the Sheep Meadow in Central Park isn't far from the crash site and there are a half dozen better roofs to land on within two blocks. It could have been a low-visibility controlled flight into a structure but, this was also restricted airspace, so I think this was a control issue. There is a (for what it's worth) witness who claimed to have seen it flying erractically over the East River before turning over the city. Since the pilot's remains will be hard to identify, there's still the possibility that the helo was stolen by somebody not to skilled at flying helos. That would be a nice outcome.

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    Pilot was identified and he was apparently a very experienced pilot.

    Given the poor visibility at that time, we cannot discard CFIT either.

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    Now they're saying he came in from the Hudson River side:

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    Based on interviews the NYPD conducted at the 34th Street heliport on Manhattan's east side, the pilot was waiting out the weather but for some reason decided it was OK to go, another law enforcement source told CNN.
    The pilot then flew around Battery Park on the southern tip of Manhattan, up the west side of the island and then, somewhere around the streets in the 40s, started to veer toward midtown Manhattan before ultimately crash landing, the law enforcement source said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Pilot was identified and he was apparently a very experienced pilot.

    Given the poor visibility at that time, we cannot discard CFIB either.
    corrected

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeeVee View Post
    corrected
    Spot-on correction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Pilot was identified and he was apparently a very experienced pilot.

    Given the poor visibility at that time, we cannot discard CFIT either.
    Non instrument rated pilot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoeingBobby View Post
    Non instrument rated pilot.
    4-stripes epaulets and no instrument rating?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    4-stripes epaulets and no instrument rating?
    You can buy a full uniform online now. No I.D. required. I'll bet Evan has a set of stripes he has on when he plays pilot on MSFS. LH probably has a full Lufty uniform!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    4-stripes epaulets and no instrument rating?
    Not uncommon with rotorcraft pilots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoeingBobby View Post
    I'll bet Evan has a set of stripes he has on when he plays pilot on MSFS.
    Never felt the urge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evan View Post
    Never felt the urge.
    Not even now that Microsoft is back with the MSFS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evan View Post
    Never felt the urge.
    We have pictures!

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    Evan in his parents basement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoeingBobby View Post
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    Evan in his parents basement.
    Evan is right: There are no epaulets seen in this picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Evan is right: There are no epaulets seen in this picture.
    They are on his shirt under the jacket (Which have stripes on the sleeves).

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoeingBobby View Post
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    Evan in his parents basement.
    Hmmm... you must have taken this when you got up to use the lav...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoeingBobby View Post
    They are on his shirt under the jacket (Which have stripes on the sleeves).
    I know. I thought that the blue font would have been redundant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evan View Post
    Hmmm... you must have taken this when you got up to use the lav...
    Didn't need to, I still have a couple of real ones in the guest room closet. Remember, I were a real pilut!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoeingBobby View Post
    Didn't need to, I still have a couple of real ones in the guest room closet. Remember, I AM a real pilot!
    Fixed.

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