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    Hello everyone:

    For this rejected photo, I got the comment that it was Over Processed / Bad postprocessing and later that Editing halos were visible. I need some help on editing halos (understand where they are) to clean this up. Any help would be appreciated. It is not because of the small size that I had to compress it to post? Is it because of doing sharpening? Thanks!

    https://www.jetphotos.com/viewreject_b.php?id=7476107

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    Quote Originally Posted by arora7dm View Post
    Hello everyone:

    For this rejected photo, I got the comment that it was Over Processed / Bad postprocessing and later that Editing halos were visible. I need some help on editing halos (understand where they are) to clean this up. Any help would be appreciated. It is not because of the small size that I had to compress it to post? Is it because of doing sharpening? Thanks!

    https://www.jetphotos.com/viewreject_b.php?id=7476107

    There are halos around the aircraft. Not much you can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arora7dm View Post
    Hello everyone:

    For this rejected photo, I got the comment that it was Over Processed / Bad postprocessing and later that Editing halos were visible. I need some help on editing halos (understand where they are) to clean this up. Any help would be appreciated. It is not because of the small size that I had to compress it to post? Is it because of doing sharpening? Thanks!

    https://www.jetphotos.com/viewreject_b.php?id=7476107
    How did you bring the contrast up? Was it with Curves or some sort of automated tool?

    Alex

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    Quote Originally Posted by arora7dm View Post
    Hello everyone:

    For this rejected photo, I got the comment that it was Over Processed / Bad postprocessing and later that Editing halos were visible. I need some help on editing halos (understand where they are) to clean this up. Any help would be appreciated. It is not because of the small size that I had to compress it to post? Is it because of doing sharpening? Thanks!

    https://www.jetphotos.com/viewreject_b.php?id=7476107
    With halos that severe, you must really be hammering it with something. You can either reprocess from the RAW file, or start from scratch with a different file. Make sure the D-lighting is turned off in your Nikon, and don't use any tools like clarity, vibrance, de-haze, shadow/highlight, etc.. when editing, and you should be able to avoid them in the future.

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    Thank you everyone for your comments. I was using Darktable and used the basic group exposure and highlight reconstruction. Here's another image where I just lowered the exposure. I have D-lighting off, but shoot in raw, so it should not impact, right? Can you please let me know your thoughts?Click image for larger version. 

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    Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arora7dm View Post
    Thank you everyone for your comments. I was using Darktable and used the basic group exposure and highlight reconstruction. Here's another image where I just lowered the exposure. I have D-lighting off, but shoot in raw, so it should not impact, right? Can you please let me know your thoughts?Click image for larger version. 

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    Thanks again.
    Doesn't work for me. The photo is too dark and shows some signs of vignetting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arora7dm View Post
    Thank you everyone for your comments. I was using Darktable and used the basic group exposure and highlight reconstruction. Here's another image where I just lowered the exposure. I have D-lighting off, but shoot in raw, so it should not impact, right? Can you please let me know your thoughts?Click image for larger version. 

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    Thanks again.
    As Geri said, dark and vignetting, but editing halos still visible (though not as strong as previous version), and white balance is also off.

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    Thank you everyone for helping me learn and understand this. Can you please review 2 additional pictures as well? One is the same as the previous one, without any changes (just cropping) and the second one is a different image. If both of these are bad, then I will need to take some classes to understand how to do this the right way. This time instead of dark table, I am using Nikon's Capture-D. I did lens correction, so vignetting should be off and left the white balance at auto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arora7dm View Post
    Thank you everyone for helping me learn and understand this. Can you please review 2 additional pictures as well? One is the same as the previous one, without any changes (just cropping) and the second one is a different image. If both of these are bad, then I will need to take some classes to understand how to do this the right way. This time instead of dark table, I am using Nikon's Capture-D. I did lens correction, so vignetting should be off and left the white balance at auto.
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    1. dark/contrast, centering, vignetting, borderline overprocessed
    2. dark/contrast, vignetting, dirty, borderline overprocessed

    The overprocessing in this case is relatively minor for both (very light halos visible top of fusealge). The vignetting and flat light/underexposure would be the real killers if you were to submit the images.

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    Thank you again. Is it possible for me to attach my raw image and for you to really quickly show me some tips? I thought I would not have any vignetting because I cropped from the middle. In any case, I have decided to give up on this image. I will attach a different one for feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arora7dm View Post
    Thank you again. Is it possible for me to attach my raw image and for you to really quickly show me some tips? I thought I would not have any vignetting because I cropped from the middle. In any case, I have decided to give up on this image. I will attach a different one for feedback.
    You can contact me directly, and I can give you my email address if you'd like me to look at one of the RAW files.

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    Hi:

    I am starting a new thread because before I didn't have the right title. I will keep all future images to this thread, unless there's a way for me to change the subject of my other thread. This was my older thread:
    https://forums.jetphotos.com/showthr...ost-processing

    Can you please share your thoughts on these images? Thank you so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arora7dm View Post
    Hi:

    I am starting a new thread because before I didn't have the right title. I will keep all future images to this thread, unless there's a way for me to change the subject of my other thread. This was my older thread:
    https://forums.jetphotos.com/showthr...ost-processing

    Can you please share your thoughts on these images? Thank you so much.

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    1. vignetting, color, borderline dark/soft
    2. contrast, centering, dirty
    3. contrast, soft, dirty

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    First of all, thank you for combining the 2 threads together. And thanks for the feedback. I have tried to fix 1 and 2, please let me know the thoughts. 3 is soft, so cannot fix that. Also, can you please elaborate on dirty? I looked at the upload guidelines and was looking for sensor dust spots in the sky.. I have also added one more picture. Is this soft as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by arora7dm View Post
    First of all, thank you for combining the 2 threads together. And thanks for the feedback. I have tried to fix 1 and 2, please let me know the thoughts. 3 is soft, so cannot fix that. Also, can you please elaborate on dirty? I looked at the upload guidelines and was looking for sensor dust spots in the sky.. I have also added one more picture. Is this soft as well?
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    1. soft
    2. contrast/dark. not fixable.
    3. contrast, dark, soft. not fixable.

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    Thank you. I assumed the first one was fixable, so tried to add a bit of sharpening to it. Is it still soft? Also, added 2 more images. I am not sure if I am exceeding the 5 images in 24 hour rule, but will wait a bit after I hear feedback on these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arora7dm View Post
    Thank you. I assumed the first one was fixable, so tried to add a bit of sharpening to it. Is it still soft? Also, added 2 more images. I am not sure if I am exceeding the 5 images in 24 hour rule, but will wait a bit after I hear feedback on these.
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    1. soft
    2. soft, contrast, centering, backlit. not fixable.
    3. dark/backlit. not fixable.

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    Thank you as always for all the feedback. Any images amongst these that can be potential picks? I can spend more time post-processing.

    Have a great labor day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by arora7dm View Post
    Thank you as always for all the feedback. Any images amongst these that can be potential picks? I can spend more time post-processing.

    Have a great labor day!

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    Not sure what you mean by 'potential picks', but these are all backlit, so none would be acceptable here.

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    Yes, that's exactly what I wanted to check - should I post process any of them if they could be made acceptable.

    They may appear back-lit, but they actually are into the sun. Meaning light is coming from the front.. Taken in the evening at LAX, with sun setting in the West and in the direction that these take off...

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