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  • Help with ID please

    Hi guys,

    I could use your help on this one.

    At the Palm Desert Air Museum is displayed outside a F-4 Phantom.
    It has two IDīs: VX-30 and 3851.
    Now, I know almost nothing about military aviation, since itīs not my favorite. But I did some research.
    VX-30 is some kind of squadron?
    And when I googled on 3851 in combination with Phantom I came on this on a website (www.adf-serials.com):

    It says this about nr. 3851:
    "Destroyed 06/11/97 while used as a target drone."

    Now:
    Is this a fake number?

    If yes, what must I do when uploading the picture?


    And another issue: can I upload two pictures of the same plane? Theyīre from completely different angles and have a different composition/background.

    Greetings,

    Hinkelbein

  • #2
    3851 are the last four numbers in the bureau number.

    So the registration number is 153851.
    Construction number is 2289.
    Aircraft type is a McDonnell Douglas QF-4S Phantom II.
    Operated by the United States Navy.

    All gained from Scramble. Most Phantom registration numbers start with 15 so that is how I came up with the information.

    -Chris

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    • #3
      153851 is the BuNo for the F-4J-31-MC at the Palm Springs Air Museum but the information on Scramble is in accurate as it was never converted to "S" specification nor was it converted to a target drone.
      Robin Guess Aviation Historian, Photographer, Web Designer.

      http://www.Jet-Fighters.Net
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Jet-fighters.Net View Post
        (...) nor was it converted to a target drone.
        I thought so, because the plane looks completely undammaged by bullits and missiles

        Thanks for your answers!

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        • #5
          From what I've seen it was converted to an "S" but was not a target drone. The operator is the USMC not the Navy. Sorry for the incorrect info in my first post.

          -Chris

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Hinkelbein View Post
            I thought so, because the plane looks completely undammaged by bullits and missiles
            An A/C converted to a target drone does not mean that it will be riddled with bullets and missile hits. If the drone were to be hit by these it would more than likely become a smoking hole in the ground or at the bottom of the ocean. If at any time the drone pilot on the ground feels that the A/C is damaged they will self destruct the plane over the MOA that they operate in.

            The easy way to tell a drone from a standard F-4 is to look at the wings and spine of the fuselage as they will have extra bumps and antennas for the drone conversion.


            Robin Guess Aviation Historian, Photographer, Web Designer.

            http://www.Jet-Fighters.Net
            http://www.Jet-Liners.Net

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