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    MINNEAPOLIS, June 28 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Northwest Airlines today announced that it will accelerate the retirement of its remaining 12 DC10-30 aircraft in service. The airline said that during the next seven months, it will replace DC10 aircraft with new Airbus A330s and Boeing 747-400 aircraft being returned to service. Currently, seven routes are served with the DC10.

    "The retirement of the DC10 is another milestone in the transformation of Northwest," said Phil Haan, executive vice president of international, alliances and information technology and chairman of NWA Cargo. "For our customers, employees and the communities we serve, this clearly shows that the Northwest of the future is about becoming a more cost-efficient airline operating aircraft that provide greater comfort for travelers."

    Northwest-Operated Trans-Atlantic Flights To Be All-A330 Starting Oct. 31

    While most of Northwest's trans-Atlantic flights already offer A330 service, during the next four months, the airline's Memphis, Tenn. - Amsterdam (Oct. 29), Minneapolis/St. Paul - London (Oct. 29) and Amsterdam - Mumbai, India service (Oct. 1) will transition to A330 service. Also this fall, the airline's entire Minneapolis/St. Paul - Amsterdam schedule, which currently is operated with both the A330 and the DC10, will be operated with the A330 (Oct. 29).

    As of Oct. 31, 2006, the airline's entire trans-Atlantic schedule will be operated with the A330, which offers travelers comforts and amenities unmatched by any other U.S. airline and many international competitors.

    "The conversion to an all A330 fleet across the Atlantic also will enhance the Northwest-KLM joint venture (JV) by utilizing larger capacity aircraft on most JV routes," Haan added.

    Minneapolis/St. Paul - Honolulu Travelers to Enjoy A330 Beginning Jan. 8

    After retirement from all international service on Oct. 31, the only remaining DC10 service at Northwest will be on its daily Minneapolis/St. Paul - Honolulu flight. Northwest's A330 will make its domestic debut on Jan. 8, 2007, when it replaces the DC10 on that route, providing a new level of comfort to Hawaii. The transition to the A330 will also mark the official retirement of the DC10 from scheduled service at Northwest.
    So, if you want to fly a NW trijet, get your tickets soon, there isn't much time left.


  • #2
    Thats a bit of a drag. Well, now we should anticipate the DC-9 replacment.
    -Kevin

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    • #3
      Originally posted by ACman
      Thats a bit of a drag.
      Haha, isn't that what caused most DC-10s to be replaced? Too much drag? HAHAHA!!! Ok, corny I know!

      BTW, it's going to be sad to see them leave the fleet. But then again they will find homes as freighters. Anyway, how old are the DC-10s anyway? They really were worth the money for NW. BTW, I wonder if NW can get some more A330s soon? Can they afford it? Also, if they were to place an order now, I wonder if Airbus will give them a deal, and some good delivery slots...
      Whatever is necessary, is never unwise.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by AA 1818
        BTW, I wonder if NW can get some more A330s soon? Can they afford it? Also, if they were to place an order now, I wonder if Airbus will give them a deal, and some good delivery slots...
        According to the press release:

        The airline has an additional 12 on order scheduled for delivery between now and the end of 2007.
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        • #5
          Exactly, they already have enough replacements on order. Ordering additional planes on top of that is probably not possible due to their financial situation, as well as their focus on investing the money that they have in a nice fleet of E-Jets.

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          • #6
            Isnt there another thread about this exactly the same issue about NW's DC10's retirement. ???

            The A330's are already in place, just waiting for the delivery-fairy to come and deliver them. Do you think NW will use a couple of the new A330's to train the old DC10's cabin crews or are they already trained to work on a A330's....???
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            • #7
              Originally posted by DAL767-400ER
              Exactly, they already have enough replacements on order. Ordering additional planes on top of that is probably not possible due to their financial situation, as well as their focus on investing the money that they have in a nice fleet of E-Jets.

              They ordered more A330's after entering bankruptcy

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              • #8
                Originally posted by chrisburns
                They ordered more A330's after entering bankruptcy
                More money for them if they have to liquidate.

                Originally posted by MaxPower
                The A330's are already in place, just waiting for the delivery-fairy to come and deliver them. Do you think NW will use a couple of the new A330's to train the old DC10's cabin crews or are they already trained to work on a A330's....???
                More than likely they are being trained slowly on a cabin trainer. AC has a few, like every other airline, and they simulate galley use, door operation, and simple cabin operation as well as emergency evacs.
                -Kevin

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ACman
                  More money for them if they have to liquidate.



                  More than likely they are being trained slowly on a cabin trainer. AC has a few, like every other airline, and they simulate galley use, door operation, and simple cabin operation as well as emergency evacs.
                  Thanks for the confirmation. Cebu Pacific airlines uses a few at their hub (CEB and MNL) as well. I dont know the other asian airlines though.
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                  • #10
                    I've done the AMS-BOM-AMS leg on the DC-10 more then enough times to know -10 was a great plane. It was a widebody, but thanks to the large windows and limited number of rows, it felt very cozy inside. I'm glad I had the chance to fly the L1011 (DL, Gulf Air), MD-11 (DL,KL) and DC-10 (NW) before they disappear from the scene.

                    Just imagine, in 20 years the "Have you ever flown on a 707?" Threads will be "Have you ever flown on a DC-10?" thread!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by chrisburns
                      They ordered more A330's after entering bankruptcy
                      Pah, Airbus probably sold them at a very low price to get NW to still go A350 instead of 787 .

                      Originally posted by ATLcenter
                      Just imagine, in 20 years the "Have you ever flown on a 707?" Threads will be "Have you ever flown on a DC-10?" thread!
                      And in 50 years threads will be "Have you ever flown on a DC-9" .

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MaxPower
                        Isnt there another thread about this exactly the same issue about NW's DC10's retirement. ???

                        The A330's are already in place, just waiting for the delivery-fairy to come and deliver them. Do you think NW will use a couple of the new A330's to train the old DC10's cabin crews or are they already trained to work on a A330's....???
                        My idea
                        They have not a dedicated cabin trainer, so they whissle fellow Sky-team-ates AF and KL to slate hours. Likely as both also operate the type and everyone will look up for more synergies by providing common training, cabin procedures and so on. This is for the newbies and the refresher sessions.
                        They also employ f/a's who are rated on the 2/3 types in use for the longhaul as also do AF. About the latter, now F/As rated on a single type are slowly becoming either curiosities or rareties ... Working on a dedicated type for a stint yes, for years no ...
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                        • #13
                          Just one question about their fleet !...

                          NW is getting more A330's and re-inserting the old 744's that has been resting at deserts. Great !

                          But what about those resting A319's and flying DC9's ?? Wont these old ladies be pulled out and let the A319's take over... ???
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                          • #14
                            Simple: The DC-9s are owned and fully paid for, while the A319s are on expensive leases, and since NW couldn't get lower leasing rates, they put the A319 in the desert.

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                            • #15
                              Judge, May I rephrase the last question ?

                              Will these DC9's be taken out of service in favor for the A319's to be used where DC9's are operating in now..

                              Or NWA can't afford having the A319's going into operating service yet ???
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