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  • #16
    that is your opinion. To allow a legalized way to kill individual's... is just wrong.
    "War" comes to mind. You guys keep making the 'freedom' argument over and over again...but to get/give that freedom it takes lives. So you prioritize. What's more important? Freedom, or the life of people like Osama and Saddam?

    Same way, you have to prioritize here. What's more important? Helping transorm the life an already independantly living (as in physically) human being or saving the "life" (which is an arguable point) of a yet unborn embryo?

    An embryo is not a human being until it is born. It is an embryo - a physical part of the woman's body.

    And about the Scott Peterson thing (leave aside the fact if he was actually guilty or not, though I'm sure he was), pinning him for the murder of a fetus is ridiculous.
    "The Director also sets the record straight on what would happen if oxygen masks were to drop from the ceiling: The passengers freak out with abandon, instead of continuing to chat amiably, as though lunch were being served, like they do on those in-flight safety videos."

    -- The LA Times, in a review of 'Flightplan'

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    • #17
      There is a huge difference between killing an animal and killing a human
      Not that I disagree with you, but why is it so different?

      Similarly, there is a huge difference between using an embryo for scientific and medical purposes and killing a human being. You just cannot equate the two.
      "The Director also sets the record straight on what would happen if oxygen masks were to drop from the ceiling: The passengers freak out with abandon, instead of continuing to chat amiably, as though lunch were being served, like they do on those in-flight safety videos."

      -- The LA Times, in a review of 'Flightplan'

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      • #18
        Proves my point even more...
        So killing a 2 year old baby would be ok with you? Sick...

        Thats fine if you don't benefit, I personally don't want to have whatever problems that could be cured with this research when I'm old. It's your choice how you wanna live though, but don't spoil it for others.
        There are stem cells that come from things other than embryos that have been proven to work. We can do fine with those.

        It's her body, she should be able do whatever she wants. If there weren't abortions we would have all these bastard children living in orphanages. Would you want a life like that?... no parents and people who just take care of you because it's their job. I know I wouldn't.
        What a sick comment. Maybe your mother should have had an abortion...

        What about the child? If the woman doesn't want a child, she should be more responsible when it comes to sex.
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        • #19
          What about the child? If the woman doesn't want a child, she should be more responsible when it comes to sex.
          Child? What child? Just a bunch of developing cells...a zygote/embryo/fetus...most definitely not a child or an individual.
          "The Director also sets the record straight on what would happen if oxygen masks were to drop from the ceiling: The passengers freak out with abandon, instead of continuing to chat amiably, as though lunch were being served, like they do on those in-flight safety videos."

          -- The LA Times, in a review of 'Flightplan'

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          • #20
            Originally posted by indian airlines
            There is a huge difference between killing an animal and killing a human
            Not that I disagree with you, but why is it so different?

            Similarly, there is a huge difference between using an embryo for scientific and medical purposes and killing a human being. You just cannot equate the two.
            It is different because they are animals and we are humans. Can't get any moer simple than that...

            Also, an embryo is a human being in my opinion, and in the opinions of many others.
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            • #21
              What a sick comment. Maybe your mother should have had an abortion...
              Sick? I really don't see how? A woman can't make decisions for her own body???

              Why would it bother me if my mother were to have had an abortion or not? If she would have had an abortion, I wouldn't have been here. That's because when she would have had the abortion "I" would not have existed. I existed only after I was born. I couldn't care less what happened before that.
              "The Director also sets the record straight on what would happen if oxygen masks were to drop from the ceiling: The passengers freak out with abandon, instead of continuing to chat amiably, as though lunch were being served, like they do on those in-flight safety videos."

              -- The LA Times, in a review of 'Flightplan'

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              • #22
                It is different because they are animals and we are humans. Can't get any moer simple than that...

                Also, an embryo is a human being in my opinion, and in the opinions of many others.
                ahh...so it's alright to kill any other living thing just because it isn't "human". Well, "in the opinions of many others" it isn't. To them there is no difference...both are living creatures.

                No way in hell embryo's are human.

                Btw, if a woman has a miscarriage, should she be charged with manslaughter? See, this whole pro-life argument is as ridiculous as that.
                "The Director also sets the record straight on what would happen if oxygen masks were to drop from the ceiling: The passengers freak out with abandon, instead of continuing to chat amiably, as though lunch were being served, like they do on those in-flight safety videos."

                -- The LA Times, in a review of 'Flightplan'

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by indian airlines
                  What a sick comment. Maybe your mother should have had an abortion...
                  Sick? I really don't see how? A woman can't make decisions for her own body???
                  Rape....grasshopper....and having known someone close to me that had to make this choice y'all have no idea how the right to an abortion is needed.
                  Try to catch me flyin dirty...

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by herpa2003
                    Proves my point even more...
                    So killing a 2 year old baby would be ok with you? Sick...
                    Where did I say that?


                    Originally posted by herpa2003
                    It's her body, she should be able do whatever she wants. If there weren't abortions we would have all these bastard children living in orphanages. Would you want a life like that?... no parents and people who just take care of you because it's their job. I know I wouldn't.
                    What a sick comment. Maybe your mother should have had an abortion...

                    What about the child? If the woman doesn't want a child, she should be more responsible when it comes to sex.
                    As stated before it's just a mass of cells, if she wants to have sex thats her business and if she doesn't want the child thats her business too. She should have the right to choose, not to have the church getting into the law and taking away people's freedom. There should be a separation of church and state and the reason for this whole abortion and stem cell controversy is the church.

                    Also I'm pretty sure you would have loved to exist as a child that your mother really didn't want but had to have because abortion was made illegal. Your mom migth have gotten raped or her boyfriend might have gotten her pregnant and then ran off as to not pay child support. And you would have been living with her in a tiny appartment with no heat, water or food because she couldn't pay the bills and when you got sick no medicine when you got sick or better yet on the street. Sounds like a great life, eh? Or better yet you ended up in an orphange or just moving around from foster home to foster home.

                    Point is... it would proally be better to not exist than be brought into the world with parents who don't want you.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by mikecweb
                      Originally posted by indian airlines
                      What a sick comment. Maybe your mother should have had an abortion...
                      Sick? I really don't see how? A woman can't make decisions for her own body???
                      Rape....grasshopper....and having known someone close to me that had to make this choice y'all have no idea how the right to an abortion is needed.
                      Mike I agree with you 100%. I totally believe in the right to abortion. That's what I meant by saying a woman should be able to make decisions for her own body (I should have made my earlier post clearer, I put it as a rhetorical question).
                      "The Director also sets the record straight on what would happen if oxygen masks were to drop from the ceiling: The passengers freak out with abandon, instead of continuing to chat amiably, as though lunch were being served, like they do on those in-flight safety videos."

                      -- The LA Times, in a review of 'Flightplan'

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                      • #26
                        Mike I agree with you 100%. I totally believe in the right to abortion. That's what I meant by saying a woman should be able to make decisions for her own body (I should have made my earlier post clearer, I put it as a rhetorical question).
                        Sure, she can make decisions about her own body. She can not have sex until she is ready to have a kid. She can be careful about it and make the male wear protection. Nothing can prevent a pregnancy 100% of the time, so the couple has to decide if sex is worth the risk.

                        About rape- that's why there is adoption available.

                        Where did I say that?
                        Earlier you said that you couldn't remember when you were a fetus so therefore a fetus wasn't a human. Greg then said that you couldn't reemember when you were an infant, and you responded by saying that it proved your point even more. That sounds like you don't think that 2 year olds are humans, so it would be ok to "terminate" them in your opinion.

                        Point is... it would proally be better to not exist than be brought into the world with parents who don't want you.
                        Untrue. Just because you have an unfortunate childhood, it doesn't mean that you have no hope in life. Many people who were unwanted in their childhood have become successful.

                        No way in hell embryo's are human.
                        That's up for debate.

                        Btw, if a woman has a miscarriage, should she be charged with manslaughter? See, this whole pro-life argument is as ridiculous as that.
                        No; she didn't intentionally kill her child. Here's a question for you- if a woman doesn't like her children, would it be ok with you if she murdered them? What is your stance on partial-birth abortion?
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                        • #27
                          Also in the article, about the umbilical cord stem cells:


                          However, these stem cells isolated from umbilical cord blood have emerged as an ethical and safe alternative to embryonic stem cells.
                          This furthers my point that embryonic stem cells are not needed; other stem cells can do the job.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by herpa2003
                            Where did I say that?
                            Earlier you said that you couldn't remember when you were a fetus so therefore a fetus wasn't a human. Greg then said that you couldn't reemember when you were an infant, and you responded by saying that it proved your point even more. That sounds like you don't think that 2 year olds are humans, so it would be ok to "terminate" them in your opinion.
                            So now I'm becoming Ahhhnold Schwarzenegger?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by herpa2003
                              Also in the article, about the umbilical cord stem cells:


                              However, these stem cells isolated from umbilical cord blood have emerged as an ethical and safe alternative to embryonic stem cells.
                              This furthers my point that embryonic stem cells are not needed; other stem cells can do the job.
                              You forgot the sentance before that...

                              So-called "multipotent" stem cells -- those found in cord blood -- are capable of forming a limited number of specialised cell types, unlike the more versatile "undifferentiated" cells that are derived from embroyos.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by herpa2003
                                So you don't eat meat then?
                                Actually, I don't. But it isn't because I don't think we should kill the animals.

                                Originally posted by herpa2003
                                There is a huge difference between killing an animal and killing a human.
                                I know. Especially when that human is ACTUALLY ALIVE and no longer dependant on their mother (except for milk...)

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