Thanks for your apology, Pat Robertson

[stlgph]

He took the liberty of apologing for his comments about calling for the ASSASSINATION of Venezuela's president, Hugo Chavez, saying he is "frustrated" with Chavez because of spats over U.S. foreign policy.


Truly unbelievable he said that in the first place.

[Showtime100]

I guess the risk you take in a free society with the freedom to speak your mind, is that somebody might actually listen.

Works as advertised.

[stlgph]

I don't know where you were educated or just if a bout of the flu caused you to simply miss this part, but the FREEDOM OF SPEECH does not give a person the right to call for the murder, or for a crime (murder, or anything else "illegal") to occur.

If I was to put it down here on this forum that I believe (insert your identification here), should be murdered, it's illegal and I could face serious prosecution.

On top of that being said, Pat Robertson's "status" in the U.S. is no longer that of a private citizen since his bid to run for public office, but more of a diplomatic nature.

So, the next time you want to hear a diplomat of the U.S. announcing that the leader of the country providing 15-20% of the supply for United States oil, should be assassinated, hope you're happy to chug out an extra 75 cents to a buck (or more) for gas when they decide to embargo the oil supply.

Of course, let's just conveniently forget the whole Christian Coalition/Bible/"Thou shou not murder" thing while we're at it.

[herpa2003]

I have to say that as a Christian myself, I think this guy has gone off of the deep end.

He doesn't represent all of us, or even most of us, just like Osama doesn't represent all Muslims.

[Showtime100]

I don't know where you were educated or just if a bout of the flu caused you to simply miss this part, but the FREEDOM OF SPEECH does not give a person the right to call for the murder, or for a crime (murder, or anything else "illegal") to occur.

Well, it seems your medication is failing you {again} which we are all sorry to see, as evidenced by your ramblings. If it starts working again, {hope} you might step back and look at what I wrote again.

And on a side note, It would be completely inappropriate to actually call you an as_hole I think we can all agree, but does {would} society in general frown on us thinking you are one? Hypothetically speaking of course. I'll leave you to guess what I think.

[wannabepilot777]

I don't agree with him at all, but I think its sad when people clearly believe what they say the first time but apologize for it anyway. Its very sad to think that the country is becoming so PC that every time someone says something that offends someone else, they are beat into submission. I am angry that he apologized. For God shakes, grow a backbone.

[Crazy764]

Showtime100 and stlgph, I suggest you guys continue your personal conflicts via other means of communication (PM, e-mail, IM, etc.). If this constant bickering continures in this or any thread, both of you will be suspended.

[Showtime100]

Absolutely right Crazy764! No place for bickering! But to set the record straight, I have no personal conflicts, sorry you see it that way.

[stlgph]

Well, it seems your medication is failing you {again} which we are all sorry to see, as evidenced by your ramblings. If it starts working again, {hope} you might step back and look at what I wrote again.

And on a side note, It would be completely inappropriate to actually call you an as_hole I think we can all agree, but does {would} society in general frown on us thinking you are one? Hypothetically speaking of course. I'll leave you to guess what I think.

As you wish to believe.

Let me introduce you to the Fighting Words Doctrine.

http://americandefenseleague.com/fightwds.htm

Legal definition of 'fighting words'


Fighting words doctrine. The First Amendment doctrine that holds that certain utterances are not constitutionally protected as free speech if they are inherently likely to provoke a violent response from the audience. N.A.A.C.P. v. Clairborne Hardware Co., Miss., 458 U.S. 886, 102 S.Ct. 3409, 73 L.Ed.2d 1215 (1982). Words which by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace, having direct tendency to cause acts of violence by the persons to whom, individually, remark is addressed. The test is what persons of common intelligence would understand to be words likely to cause an average addressee to fight. City of Seattle v. Camby, 104 Wash.2d 49, 701 P.2d 499, 500.

The "freedom of speech" protected by the Constitution is not absolute at all times and under all circumstances and there are well-defined and narrowly limited classes of speech, the prevention and punishment of which does not raise any constitutional problem, including the lewd and obscene, the profane, the libelous, and the insulting or "fighting words" which by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace. Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, 315 U.S. 568, 62 S.Ct. 766, 86 L.Ed. 1031.

SOURCE: Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition

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[ACman]

Why dont we all join the "700 club" so he can shut his fat mouth and open his eyes. Then thell be able to pay to update there Tiberian junker. (Southpark)

[medic1]

Its quite sad that some disagreements in this forum end in heated posts and bickering such as ths thread has displayed. Whatever happened to two people being able to have drastically different opinions and respect each other for it, and agree to disagree....instead of things boiling down to name calling?

[Showtime100]

Don't get too sad David, it's just a silly internet forum. Nothing to give up on mankind over.

[JordanD]

What Robertson said wasn't offensive, it was downright stupid. Why is a man who apparently represents jesus christ, calling for the MURDER of another human being?

[Showtime100]

Why is a man who apparently represents jesus christ,

Represents Jesus Christ? (notice the caps? ) Where did you ever come up with that? He is a preacher, not even the Pope can "represent" Jesus Christ.

[stlgph]

Good.

Now write the Pope, Jerry Falwell, George Bush, Pat Robertson, and Fred Phelps and tell them McJe$u$ Ventures is hereby closed for business.