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[TeeVee]

well assuming he was a member of the flight crew, he was very likely close to middle age back then which would make him ~70's now? do we really wanna prosecute the guy/gal for this horrendous video 25 years later?

as for the SOL, while i admit this was a terrible act, i dont think it qualifies as a capital crime, so very likely the SOL ran out....

[TeeVee]

it is kind of old, but i agree that the camera operator should be drawn and quartered...

[TeeVee]

really???? you mean to tell us that the stabilized approach at ~ 3 miles is a post 1998 invention/discovery? oh how i would love to see some proof of that BS!...

[TeeVee]

let us not forget the approach to rwy 13 at kai tak...

at night, in the rain, fully manual flight. cowboys.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWOgvjx9TfA

"This is where aircraft would make a 47-degree right turn to line up with the runway, with less than two nautical miles to fly and started at a height of only around 650 feet. The final approach after the right turn then flew just tens of meters over the apartment building surrounding the airport. So close that passengers often commented they could see into the flats." (https://simpleflying.com/hong-kong-k...letter_popup=1)

wow! talk about unsafe, irresponsible and just plain batshit crazy... i wonder if BB ever flew that approach. if so, enlighten us

[TeeVee]

given your proclivities, maybe they should ban commercial aircraft at commercial aircraft...

[TeeVee]

dont tell evan...

another runway near miss, this time at BOS, with a lear jet taking off after being instructed to wait for landing cross-traffic. maybe they need to install moving barriers that lift up out the tarmac to prevent this type of thing. whaddaya think evan?

[TeeVee]

very relevant. hell even the same aircraft type.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Duq9GUAesHQ

note: up to 200' they were still banking pretty steeply.

[TeeVee]

evan, there are lots of airports around the world that do NOT have long, easy, straight in finals, and require substantial maneuvering up to very late. this is one of the reasons for having "captain only" take-offs and landings.

again, i'm pretty sure we are going to see that this terrible tragedy was related to the singular act of feathering, nothing else. yeah, i know you're all gonna jump on me and say to add their failure to realize the mistake....

[TeeVee]

i'm not a pilot. not even a sim pilot. i can find my way around a cockpit to a limited extent and have a rudimentary understanding of what does what. having said that, i have jump-seated on a number of challenger 300 flights with my friend and his #1. i dont remember ever seeing the PF double check what the PM said he did, though admittedly I wasnt watching for it. and having watched my fair share of real world cockpit youtube videos, it doesnt appear that way either. i mean, there has to be a degree of trust, right?

i suspect the result of this investigation is going to leave us as we were after AF447--absolutely dumbfounded and bewildered at how some experienced pilots totally flubbed-up. they paid the ultimate price for their errors, but ~68 others did as well.

[TeeVee]

i think evan missed the point and clearly cross-check would not help if the guy moving the control THOUGHT he moved the correct control, e.g., "PF: flaps 30. PM (after moving the CL) Flaps 30."...