F.A.O.: TeeVee

[3WE]

I can’t get past the “impossible”, because that is an absolute statement, which, in this case is clearly incorrect. The redneck speed brake worked very well. A pilot swapped into an un-manned plane. No one did died. Your sentiment blinds you to those facts....

[3WE]

I only have Red Cross first aid, but people are known to tunnel vision and be distracted during emergencies AND IN NOISY ENVIRONMENTS… people running from the plane, to the plane…

Some extra racket from a siren might be a good thing as they barrel down the runway at a high speed… I’m sure they have fancy braking systems, but if the school bus of nuns (that frequent runway environments) were to not see the fire trucks…

AND, not only did Asiana have the near ultimate botched landing, its sole fatality was a fire truck running over a passenger…

Going a little off topic- there’s been race car crashes, and a concerned member of the pit crew gets nailed running across pit road.

Then we have beepers on forklifts at the Wharehouse and big box store.

Finally, maybe the siren makes the rescue guys feel cool?

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[Pilots grounded]

No violation, but bad forumanship to start new threads when something should be rightfully appended.

No way to know, but I wonder what the sentiment would be if the stunt worked 100%, instead of 50%?

I get the feeling that emotions are guiding things a bit, our discussions, in particular.

Also, too bad that (and why did) the one plane spin/spiral/whatever? It seems that the other guy transferred pretty much as-expected.

[3WE]

I briefly wondered if the guy could counter-sue to get any car damage fixed, but he’s probably responsible for that, too.

[3WE]

Thank you.

How would Evan go about changing these statutes? It kills me that the eggnernt dealership hired a 19YO idiot who could not legally drive (let alone a stick) and let him touch a drivers seat except to vacuum it.

Perhaps a Twitter campaign against the dealership and a gofundme effort for the car owner? /sarcasm.

[3WE]

TeeVee: Check out the post in the off-topic forum.

Or would Roe vs. Wade be more interesting?...

[3WE]

Sir Argumentarian, Forum entertainer and Friend:

I enjoy legal arguments: There’s usually some high-level logic that needs to be considered.

In this case: One is required to hand over their vehicle to responsible persons, and is responsible if said persons are negligent.

Hmmm. But, I used reasonable good Dilligence in handing my car to people who have a reasonable expectation of not being grossly negligent.

This defies 99% of common sense.

Do you think this case will prevail?

I think Evan may need to help you guys in the legal department a bit more, as soon as mask law and bomb handling is rectified.

Thanks in advance.


https://www.unilad.co.uk/news/jeep-o...-dies-20220506

[3WE]

And great music:

https://youtu.be/qjuphuG3ndw

Snarkiness aside, I saw Sigur Ros once…interesting.

[3WE]

Please quit playing deaf that the general public likely panicked on their own.

Never mind, the Israeli’s are screw ups and greatly in need of your updated procedures and oversight. They should be contacting you shortly....

[3WE]

Mild sarcasm:
I blame New York tourists.

Minimal sarcasm:
My money is on crowd misbehavior- Israel has mandatory military service, and the culture seems pretty strong on procedures and team-compliance and I imagine they make intelligent PA announcements

Then again, there are rules of thumb there: if a warning sounds, you have X-seconds/minutes to get to a bunker (based on distance from Palestine)....

[3WE]

If the shell had blown up, I can just imagine the admonishment and suggestions for procedural overhaul that would be given....

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So, in Germany, tourists occasionally bring 500 or 1000lb antique bombs that they’ve found into the airport with their luggage?...

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Not sure of your objective, unless it’s multiple.

I see the humor here.

Now, as to how it was handled, I imagine procedures were followed.

Israelis are security nuts, so I’m sure there’s little tolerance to cowboy improvisation.

Someone brought a bomb to a place where bombs are kind of frowned upon…I’m sure you can process this in black and white terms…

The security guys probably have limited freedom to evaluate how “hot” the item is and, in a matter of seconds, screen the Griswolds for their pure intentions.

I’d also bet that there’s no intention of stampedes nor panic…just that us humans are a stinking mess. We have Clintons and Trumps and Bidens running a major country, so keeping people from panicking is tough....

[3WE]

3BS-modified Evan post:



Yes....

[3WE]

You are missing something here...

TeeVee's mayonnaise story- there was NOT two sides to it.

According to TeeVee (yes, a biased source), there was never, "Do (or don't do) X or you will be placed on the no-fly list"

It was- hey, this mayo is rotten, some sort of dismissal from the flight attendant, and then TeeVee said something ugly and took his own tray to the galley (which may have been some sort of violation)...

Then, he arrives at the airport, and the airline won't check him in...

Not_exactly good procedure that he secretly got black listed because him and the FA got pissy over rotten mayo...

And for the umpteenth time- who gives a rat about YOUR idea of the blacklist & "forgiveness". Delta Airlines gets to decide...it's their airplanes, their crews, their stockholders their P & L statement and whether an improperly-enacted law is worth losing customers over...

Not...

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What is “blatant disregard”?

”I refuse to wear a mask because a mask because masks can harbor pathogens”.

Wild-ass guess: 90 to 95% of these incidents were verbal and lacking in naughty words like physical threats…

For something that has been determined to have come from improper law making…

Yeah, let them fly and we’ll deal with the truly bad people the way we always have. What’s the problem?: There’s no issues violently pulling paid passengers off when you need to reposition a pilot....

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Thanks for biting. It’s fun to know how to choose the right bait.

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[Bicycle crashes]



Just being factual.

I had my share of crashes and also grew up during pre-helmet days. (Cue the head injury jokes)

There's probably a good statistical argument that bicycles should be banned.

But, I think it’s an important part of growing up, fun and good exercise.

So, I accept the risk for myself, watched the kiddo crash a few times too.

Life has risks…including CoVid and Bicycles and Airliners.

Evan struggles with that....

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https://youtu.be/PEy6968xO-I

[Gray font and maybe occasional blue]

There may be some policy that passengers are not allowed in the galley (except for coach passengers to pee on a 737-Minlav.)

So, TeeVee does not comply and puts his rotten mayo in the galley.

A passenger is told to don their mask, but instead the passenger charges forward cussing and threatening and is subdued by force.

A passenger has an itchy nose and after the third time, the FA declares them non compliant, and puts them on the naughty list with TeeVee, and the dude ready to fight over masks.

At some level, all of these people have “failed to comply with the flight crew”.

Maybe the airline actually has some extra records on example 2.

But if I were in charge, I think I’m forgiving 1 & 3…Because business(TM) (Citation TeeVee).

Unfortunately Evan feels the crew has been undermined,...

[3WE]

And kids on bicycles are going to crash....