Having purched five others from the airline they are now looking at leasing the remaining three 77Ls, AI are offering the aircraft for sale or lease to any airline interested.
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Originally posted by LUNN View PostHaving purched five others from the airline they are now looking at leasing the remaining three 77Ls, AI are offering the aircraft for sale or lease to any airline interested.Whatever is necessary, is never unwise.
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Originally posted by Foxtrot View PostIs AI is the only airline that cannot seem to make the 77L work? Hmm interesting eh? Not surprising then that it calls the plane a "fuel guzzler" - when others are flying it happily around the world and happy to take on more.
Turkminestan Airlines - 3.
Republic of Iraq (perhaps for IA?) - 1.
Qatar Airways - 9.
PIA - 2.
Ethiopian Airlines - 9.
Emirates - 10.
Delta - 10.
Ceiba Intercontinental - 1.
Business Jet/VIP aircraft - 2.
AirIndia (to Ethiad) - 8.
Air Canada - 6.
Air Austral - 1.
In reality - if they were priced well (as AI is under pressure to restructure and handle profitability issues), EY could pick these up at a great price, and they are a great aircraft. Keep in mind though, it is the least sold 777 model out there, and the largest carriers only operates 10 of them.
There is one other aspect that I have to ask about and perhaps you guys can help answer them. For carriers that require Hot and High operations - would the 772LR fill that niche (more powerful engines, greater wing spans, greater fuel capacities)? If so, the aircraft is a great fit for EY, ET, EK, QR, IA (or the goverment as a VIP) - as well as providing for the range necessary.Whatever is necessary, is never unwise.
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I wouldn't recommend anyone buying Second Hand Aircraft from Air India, they can't even keep their relatively new 787's in the Sky and one has apparently been parked for several months.
They will surely be the first Airline to retire their 787 fleet as the process has already started!
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Originally posted by tsv View PostI wouldn't recommend anyone buying Second Hand Aircraft from Air India, they can't even keep their relatively new 787's in the Sky and one has apparently been parked for several months.
They will surely be the first Airline to retire their 787 fleet as the process has already started!
They are not retiring the fleet. Your statements contradict each other in directly highlighting their business practice yet not contemplating or perhaps grasping the concept. Get rid of the panes that do not work for your fleet (and, better yet, do it while those planes still hold equity) and stock your fleet with the newer, more fuel efficient, better suited aircraft.
Once more, I am not bashing the 777-200LR, but rather stating that they were not as good a fit for AI as the 777-300ER and 787-8 combination is for the company.Whatever is necessary, is never unwise.
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Obviously forgot to add a smiley face to my post! Of course the Buyers will do due diligence and make a Business decision.
But there is a current of truth in my dark humour - Air India is not going to lead the World in Aircraft Maintenance standards any time soon. And I'm sure most real CEO's would agree that a near new $200 M Airplane is worth more flying than sitting around as a Spare Parts horse.
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Originally posted by tsv View PostAnd I'm sure most real CEO's would agree that a near new $200 M Airplane is worth more flying than sitting around as a Spare Parts horse.
Originally posted by tsv View PostBut there is a current of truth in my dark humour - Air India is not going to lead the World in Aircraft Maintenance standards any time soon.Whatever is necessary, is never unwise.
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Originally posted by LUNN View PostHaving purched five others from the airline they are now looking at leasing the remaining three 77Ls, AI are offering the aircraft for sale or lease to any airline interested.
http://www.livemint.com/Companies/Ly...Air-India.html
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Originally posted by AA 1818 View PostAt present, AirIndia currently has no 787s stored. There are 3 aircraft in the entire fleet that are stored - 2 737-200s (previously operated as Cargo aircraft) and 1 777-200LR which is likely being prepared for Ethiad as either a sale, or a lease (i.e. that $200 Million spare parts horse is not even their own to fly...).
When the rest of the world's airlines were waiting to get their hands on their 787s, AirIndia was on the first operators. Would Boeing entrust the aircraft to an unsafe carrier? They currently operate a mixed fleet of Airbus and Boeing products and the last major incident reported on AirIndia was over 2010 (AirIndia Express). So, considering their operations and their incidents one could venture that they are a safe airline. But, why stop there? Who operates the VIP services for the government of India (including transportation of the Prime Minister, President and/or members of Parliament)? Who has recently joined Star Alliance? Has the airline been banned from flying to Europe due to unsound safety and maintenance practices? No. Has the airline been banned from flying to the U.S.? Nop. I again, fail to see the validity of your argument in the wake of the facts.
Re the 787 some have said is in storage you may want to read the article below. Air India say it is going back into service in November. Interesting to see if that happens.
You may want to read this;
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