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The photo shows that there aren't any approach lights, however a PAPI could well be further down the runway than the picture shows. I'm just going off one of the charts that seems to say there is no PAPI for 20, but the charts aren't in the format I'm used to, and with my French being rather poor I can't be sure.
I think we are both looking at the plate I just posted of the runway instrument layout. I also searched along the runway in Google Earth.
I'm sorry if my first post seemed like it was jumping all over you... I'm not trying to do that. I know your posts are well thought out and reasoned.
No, I didn't take it that way. That wasn't specifically directed at you. Sometimes you stick your neck out on speculation here and get chastised by the more reserved among us. Sorry if it came off as accusative.
Also I would add to what we have discussed before....
1. Don't mix precision and non-precision app, we use different instruments in the cockpit as primary and secondary instruments
2. There is no prof pilot in the world (I believe so) who will trade his Vref speed against runway exit point...specially in adverse Wx. You do exit rwy on busy apt at allocated exit point when requested by ATC otherwise don't push yourself to the limits just coz u don't want to make backtracking, keep focused on the primary goals (safety and comfort also - you will not use max braking also just to catch yr nearest exit - pax will feel it)
Thanks. I see the role of the ADC for altitude data.
BTW: I have had many a landing on intercity flights that ended with a bow to seat in front of me - hard braking to make a turn-off. A few tire squealers as well. All's well that ends well.
Thanks. I see the role of the ADC for altitude data.
BTW: I have had many a landing on intercity flights that ended with a bow to seat in front of me - hard braking to make a turn-off. A few tire squealers as well. All's well that ends well.
Ok, as I said before; most of large operators including flag carriers place comfort of the pax right behind safety.
my ex airline rules:
- taxi speed not above limits and slow in turns, so ppl in the1st class will not spill drinks
- don't jump on brakes unneccessary
- rate of cabin climb/descent max 500 ft/min unless required for operational reasons
- etc....
Ok, as I said before; most of large operators including flag carriers place comfort of the pax right behind safety.
my ex airline rules:
- taxi speed not above limits and slow in turns, so ppl in the1st class will not spill drinks
- don't jump on brakes unneccessary
- rate of cabin climb/descent max 500 ft/min unless required for operational reasons
- etc....
That must be long-haul decorum. I'm talking about 73's and 320's, major carriers doing intercontinental multi-cycle shifts. I had a flight once, Lufthansa A319, Frankfurt to Prague, about 45 min. flight time. They were coming in hot, the speedbrakes were at 30-45° for nearly a minute on approach, landed HARD (people gasped!) and veered off the runway onto a taxi lane at probably 30mph. I imagine these flights are piloted by ex-carrier pilots who forget the tailhook is not available. The pilot was standing in the doorway when we deplaned. I gave him an evil look.
I had a flight once, Lufthansa A319, Frankfurt to Prague, about 45 min. flight time. They were coming in hot, the speedbrakes were at 30-45° for nearly a minute on approach, landed HARD (people gasped!) and veered off the runway onto a taxi lane at probably 30mph. I imagine these flights are piloted by ex-carrier pilots who forget the tailhook is not available.
Even now Germany's navy has no carriers? Or can it really be Germany has no navy? In any case, there's no need for a Lufthansa pilot to be German, right?
Even now Germany's navy has no carriers? Or can it really be Germany has no navy? In any case, there's no need for a Lufthansa pilot to be German, right?
It looks like we are losing interest in what this discussion is about, hopefully there will be some news about boxes soon...
Yesterday I have done two flights as pax; dxb-bkk-kkc, first leg A380-800 and second leg on A300-600R (my favourite for many years) and still like it regardless of all the trouble created by recent accidents....
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