AP: Cubana Crashes on Takeoff From Havana

[Evan]

Global Aerolineas Damojh has released a statement that they have read out the flight recorders and determined that the crash resulted from an initial stall at takeoff, due to an excessively steep climb angle.

http://avherald.com/h?article=4b8bfb2d&opt=0

[3WE]

Global Aerolineas Damojh has released a statement that they have read out the flight recorders and determined that the crash resulted from an initial stall at takeoff, due to an excessively steep climb angle.

http://avherald.com/h?article=4b8bfb2d&opt=0

#Q$%@#! (Cursing at "modern CYA, non-legally-binding" communication- not_cursing Evan for the 'update'.)

Near worthless information...

I kind of doubt it was "gee-manitly, let's be cowboys and pull up relentlessly- that's ok ain't it...(even though the guys can regurgitate tons of acronym stuff like UAS, FLCH, and TOGA and steep turns are at 10K, 250 knots and 45 degrees).

Shouldn't such a proclamation include relevant supporting data (as well as some particular non-relevant supporting data).

FDR indicated the trim setting was wrong? That the yoke was waaaaaay back? Discussion on the CVR about attitude, discussion about who is doing what with the yoke? Bubbahandro was truly pulling up relentlessly, or was he dutifully pushing over, or pushing, but the control was jammed- CG, hydraulic problems, rocks wedged in the elevator, phugged up jack-screws- or did they just poorly understand phugoid behavior and that if things are perfectly wrong, the plane can 'accelerate' up into a stall?

Questions...many questions!

/gripe.

[Evan]

Shouldn't such a proclamation include relevant supporting data (as well as some particular non-relevant supporting data).

Not if you are trying to deflect blame to the charter crew and away from your shady airline.

FDR indicated the trim setting was wrong? That the yoke was waaaaaay back? Discussion on the CVR about attitude, discussion about who is doing what with the yoke? Bubbahandro was truly pulling up relentlessly, or was he dutifully pushing over, or pushing, but the control was jammed- CG, hydraulic problems, rocks wedged in the elevator...

Meteorite jammed in the elevator. Mark my words.

[3WE]

Evan: Not if you are trying to deflect blame to the charter crew and away from your shady airline. 3BS: Noted & valid.

Evan: Meteorite jammed in the elevator. Mark my words. 3BS: Indeed- However, I bet a beer that it, instead, passed through the aircraft, severing a hydraulic line and causing nose-up elevator...just to be argumentative.