Hi everyone.
First at all I want to wish to everyone a good year 2012.
And I emphasize that I congratulate them all, with all due respect to everyone.
Second, as always I apologize because English is not my first language, and have some difficulties wording in English, but I hope that what I write will be clear for everyone.
Yes, I definitely know that some of the participants tired of seeing my name. It's very regrettable for me, but when my heart is so hurts I need to write it.
Even if I'm one of the most veteran participants in this site, I'm not asking for any special privileges.
On the other hand, can not be a situation that I would feel so hard that some members of staff just sneer at me and my dignity.
I'll tell the truth, that during the last period I even thought to ask administration to delete all of my photos and delete my ID from the database , but I always think a lot in advance, and I not want to do anything rash, that might later regret it. So I'm not asking for such hard things for now.
One of the things that I think make harm to all of us (yes, to all of us !!!) It's the huge number of the screeners.
Very likely to be participants and crew members that did not agree with me on that, but I'm not a kid, and I'm not stupid.
A long time I see clearly, and any sensible person can see it, during participating in the forums, that there are many differences of opinion in many cases between the team members on various issues.
And no one can deny it, that's a fact !!!
I'm personally not in a hurry anytime, and I do not understand people who just rush all the time and want everything quickly quickly...
I wrote about it lot of times in the forums discussions about the huge queue before the screening.
And if there are so many screeners, I prefer, for example, that on each photo will be five opinions, not just three.
True, it would take more time, but in my humble opinion it's would be fairer for all of us.
I can not be sure, but I feel, over time, that some of the screeners are not want to see my photos.
I can not set this as a "personal hatred" because of no one knows me personally, but I have that hard feeling, and against the feeling of a person you can not say "Do not feel" ... You can say "You're wrong in your feeling" ...
I wish that I have a mistake with these feelings !
It's very clear to everyone that not all people are equal in their opinions, their emotions, the way they relate to others, and it is very clear to me that this place was not different at all, that here I get on the one hand a very good and human relationship (including compliments) from several of the crew members, but on the other hand I feel a big hostile from others.
Maybe some of you remember that a few months ago I asked in the forum question about a photo, and Mr. Michael Wolf replied an answer with absolute certainty, I did exactly as he suggested, but the photo was rejected, and then when I wrote on the forum about it, some people were saying that maybe I'm wrong, and maybe have been mistake by Mr. Wolf.
I keep saying that Mr. Wolf was right, while others were Mistakes. This is one example of the problems and lack of logic because of disagreements among the staff.
Recently there was a discussion (of another person) about a photo taken in Amsterdam, and There was a disagreement between the various team members, each wrote a different opinion ...
It was a second example ...
Previously occurred several cases with photo was rejected with a comment (for example) like "should rotate clockwise, 0,3", but after I did so and reupload it, I got another rejection without any comment, and after I sent an appeal I received again rejection with comment like "should rotate counterclockwise 0,5" ...
So, tell me please, is it sad or funny???
Now here are the latest example, that made me a big hurt, so I write now this long message.
I want to avoid problems, and although I got in the past some answers that not helped me, I decided a few days ago to ask a new question on the forum, again on the subject of "horizon unlevel", and this time I received an answer from the senior screener Mr. James Rowson.
So, it was a big shock and a big disappointment for me, and also lack of understanding, when this photo was rejected.
Of course I sent an appeal, I wrote that it's according to the answer of Mr. James Rowson, I added links to issue in the forum, I asked "Did Mr.James Rowson he's wrong ?", and truth I added also a few words with a big frustration. but it was rejected again, without any word as comment.
Therefore, all of you can understand the biggest frustration I have over and over.
What can I say more, if the word of Mr. James Rowson does not count for other team members ? ...
I am a person who thinks a lot of "outside the box" and I can not understand the insistence of some of the screeners (not all, only some of them) with the issue about the "horizon unlevel" without any logical reason.
It's so clear that have a dispute between the screeners on this issue, and the photographers are the suffers.
I want to be understood and clear:
When a photo is really crooked and it's "roaring" I do not think we have to accept such photos.
But I do not think you should aggravate such cases as I mentioned above, and as I had been writing from time to time.
Maybe you may take a decision like until a deviation of 0.3 do not reject, because it's so awful, especially when there are several different factors in the photo by which you can determine the level, for example when you can not align by the verticals and also by the runways or taxiways, and we have so many of such cases!
BTW, Yesterday I got a few more rejections, I think that some of the rejections was not make sense, I sent another three appeals which were rejected out of hand, but my frustration is so big and I do not feel need to write with more details about it.
From past experience, I know in advance what will be some of the answers, I also expect to "get on my head", but I also expect that some people start to think "outside the box", will try to understand the whole issue, and I wish for many answers , from team members and from the other participants.
I will finish as I began:
I wish to everyone a good year 2012.
And I emphasize that I congratulate them all, with all due respect to everyone.
Best regards,
Erez.
PS
This message took me about 4 hours to write, to read, to understand if I explained correctly, to consult with some fellows, to think of how not to offend any person, etc., etc., when my intention is not only my personal gain but specifically for the site and for other photographers from all over the world.
As I "spent" so much time for this morning, and I did nothing for this long time, so I hope everyone has the time to read and internalize it.
Thanking you in advance, best regards and respect..
First at all I want to wish to everyone a good year 2012.
And I emphasize that I congratulate them all, with all due respect to everyone.
Second, as always I apologize because English is not my first language, and have some difficulties wording in English, but I hope that what I write will be clear for everyone.
Yes, I definitely know that some of the participants tired of seeing my name. It's very regrettable for me, but when my heart is so hurts I need to write it.
Even if I'm one of the most veteran participants in this site, I'm not asking for any special privileges.
On the other hand, can not be a situation that I would feel so hard that some members of staff just sneer at me and my dignity.
I'll tell the truth, that during the last period I even thought to ask administration to delete all of my photos and delete my ID from the database , but I always think a lot in advance, and I not want to do anything rash, that might later regret it. So I'm not asking for such hard things for now.
One of the things that I think make harm to all of us (yes, to all of us !!!) It's the huge number of the screeners.
Very likely to be participants and crew members that did not agree with me on that, but I'm not a kid, and I'm not stupid.
A long time I see clearly, and any sensible person can see it, during participating in the forums, that there are many differences of opinion in many cases between the team members on various issues.
And no one can deny it, that's a fact !!!
I'm personally not in a hurry anytime, and I do not understand people who just rush all the time and want everything quickly quickly...
I wrote about it lot of times in the forums discussions about the huge queue before the screening.
And if there are so many screeners, I prefer, for example, that on each photo will be five opinions, not just three.
True, it would take more time, but in my humble opinion it's would be fairer for all of us.
I can not be sure, but I feel, over time, that some of the screeners are not want to see my photos.
I can not set this as a "personal hatred" because of no one knows me personally, but I have that hard feeling, and against the feeling of a person you can not say "Do not feel" ... You can say "You're wrong in your feeling" ...
I wish that I have a mistake with these feelings !
It's very clear to everyone that not all people are equal in their opinions, their emotions, the way they relate to others, and it is very clear to me that this place was not different at all, that here I get on the one hand a very good and human relationship (including compliments) from several of the crew members, but on the other hand I feel a big hostile from others.
Maybe some of you remember that a few months ago I asked in the forum question about a photo, and Mr. Michael Wolf replied an answer with absolute certainty, I did exactly as he suggested, but the photo was rejected, and then when I wrote on the forum about it, some people were saying that maybe I'm wrong, and maybe have been mistake by Mr. Wolf.
I keep saying that Mr. Wolf was right, while others were Mistakes. This is one example of the problems and lack of logic because of disagreements among the staff.
Recently there was a discussion (of another person) about a photo taken in Amsterdam, and There was a disagreement between the various team members, each wrote a different opinion ...
It was a second example ...
Previously occurred several cases with photo was rejected with a comment (for example) like "should rotate clockwise, 0,3", but after I did so and reupload it, I got another rejection without any comment, and after I sent an appeal I received again rejection with comment like "should rotate counterclockwise 0,5" ...
So, tell me please, is it sad or funny???
Now here are the latest example, that made me a big hurt, so I write now this long message.
I want to avoid problems, and although I got in the past some answers that not helped me, I decided a few days ago to ask a new question on the forum, again on the subject of "horizon unlevel", and this time I received an answer from the senior screener Mr. James Rowson.
So, it was a big shock and a big disappointment for me, and also lack of understanding, when this photo was rejected.
Of course I sent an appeal, I wrote that it's according to the answer of Mr. James Rowson, I added links to issue in the forum, I asked "Did Mr.James Rowson he's wrong ?", and truth I added also a few words with a big frustration. but it was rejected again, without any word as comment.
Therefore, all of you can understand the biggest frustration I have over and over.
What can I say more, if the word of Mr. James Rowson does not count for other team members ? ...
I am a person who thinks a lot of "outside the box" and I can not understand the insistence of some of the screeners (not all, only some of them) with the issue about the "horizon unlevel" without any logical reason.
It's so clear that have a dispute between the screeners on this issue, and the photographers are the suffers.
I want to be understood and clear:
When a photo is really crooked and it's "roaring" I do not think we have to accept such photos.
But I do not think you should aggravate such cases as I mentioned above, and as I had been writing from time to time.
Maybe you may take a decision like until a deviation of 0.3 do not reject, because it's so awful, especially when there are several different factors in the photo by which you can determine the level, for example when you can not align by the verticals and also by the runways or taxiways, and we have so many of such cases!
BTW, Yesterday I got a few more rejections, I think that some of the rejections was not make sense, I sent another three appeals which were rejected out of hand, but my frustration is so big and I do not feel need to write with more details about it.
From past experience, I know in advance what will be some of the answers, I also expect to "get on my head", but I also expect that some people start to think "outside the box", will try to understand the whole issue, and I wish for many answers , from team members and from the other participants.
I will finish as I began:
I wish to everyone a good year 2012.
And I emphasize that I congratulate them all, with all due respect to everyone.
Best regards,
Erez.
PS
This message took me about 4 hours to write, to read, to understand if I explained correctly, to consult with some fellows, to think of how not to offend any person, etc., etc., when my intention is not only my personal gain but specifically for the site and for other photographers from all over the world.
As I "spent" so much time for this morning, and I did nothing for this long time, so I hope everyone has the time to read and internalize it.
Thanking you in advance, best regards and respect..
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