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DFW to Facelift its "Legacy" Terminals
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Glad to see DFW being updated, its not a bad airport in terms of passenger services, in fact its my preferred airport to connect through. However any investment is certainly positive and I'm glad the city see's it needs to stay competitive with other airports.
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Hmmm, sounds quite ambitious. My question is, given the layout of the terminals as they exist today, how much can really be changed? Concession villages? Heck terminal D is many times deeper than the others, thus allowing the space for these "villages." Second, given how busy DFW is with a full compliment of gates, what kind of nightmare will it be without some gates?
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Originally posted by TeeVee View PostHmmm, sounds quite ambitious. My question is, given the layout of the terminals as they exist today, how much can really be changed? Concession villages? Heck terminal D is many times deeper than the others, thus allowing the space for these "villages." Second, given how busy DFW is with a full compliment of gates, what kind of nightmare will it be without some gates?
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Source: http://www.dfwairport.com/pressroom/...nt-Program.pdf
Upon reading the press release it appears that all four terminals will end up looking somewhat similar to Terminal D, the international terminal. Since 1/3rd of each terminal will be shut down for operations at a time during renovation/expansion, which amounts to about 10-14 gates depending on which terminal is being renovated, Terminal E could easily handle those flights that would be displaced, that is, not counting the E satellite. The good thing though is that given DFW's enormous ramp space, it could also operate flights on hardstands using buses if the need arises.
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Flew through DFW a couple of weeks ago. I don't know what the deal is, but the place looked crappy, old and run down...(at least it SORT OF did).
It's tough to say that knowing that it is one of the most modern and well-planned airports around.
Of course, I think you could right a book on "well-planned" airports that failed in some ways. Don't take that wrong- DFW is obviously a success, but it is almost humorus that it was designed as a "terminal" airport and wound up being a hub.
I guess it's strange that the one terminal deviated from the semi-circles (I guess that means the semi-circles were not the best design. The other thing is that the old terminals seem somewhat narrow and lacking in space....some of that may be that maybe it wasn't designed for a secure area versus a non-secure area....In fact, the new secure "inner train" does seem to detract architecturally from the old terminals. (Score another one for "the best laid plans" for the outer shuttle trains....do those even run any more?)
It is also VERY sad to see the "abandoned" terminal and the "Delta Hangar"........and of course footprints of where other terminals were planned.
One other DFW comment- I lived there for a couple of years and it WAS an amazing place- to drop off or pick up a passenger....100 feet from plane to car! Incredible conveinience!!!!!
On the other hand- changing planes- that can result in quite a haul whether you walk or ride.
It's also interesting that my home airport (STL) was "state of the art" in 1960, went through a remarkable high-traffic phase with a very limited runway layout, and now is an amazingly slow place with a slightly improved runway and taxiway system that wreaks of duct-tape and bailing wire.
I wonder if DEN is realizing some design stuff that missed the mark (aside from the automatic baggage system.)Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.
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Originally posted by tommyalf View PostMIA is in a class by itself...what that class is, I have no idea.
I do have to admit though, that the new security screening area for C and D is quite friggin annoying. I never did like A terminal either, since it tended to have most of the "heavies" including AA, BA, and Virgin, which meant huge lines at peak times.
Still, I can zip through check-in, security, and get to my gate it usually under 20 minutes.
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Originally posted by 3WE View PostFlew through DFW a couple of weeks ago. I don't know what the deal is, but the place looked crappy, old and run down...(at least it SORT OF did).
The old pre-security trains at DFW were shut down once the SkyLink opened for business in 2005. I have to admit, those old trains were probably the slowest airport trains I've ever ridden in. The SkyLink is light years better.
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Originally posted by Foxtrot View PostIf you want to know what crappy, old and run-down really is like, pay a visit to CDG's T2A, B, C or D. Metal chairs with paint peeling off, floor tiles that are missing, urinals and faucets that don't work, etc. And that was built much later than DFW's terminals, which are 35 years old. I'll take DFW hands down any day over the mess that is CDG given a choice. At least the basic facilities are in good shape.
The old pre-security trains at DFW were shut down once the SkyLink opened for business in 2005. I have to admit, those old trains were probably the slowest airport trains I've ever ridden in. The SkyLink is light years better.
Thanks for the update on the old DFW shuttle-pods.....I hate to see those go. Yep, slow- but certainly unique and were quit the leap at thier time because they were totally automated!Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.
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