This is a tough question- hidden in a ton of discussion.
Are any of our pilots (controllers?) aware of specific procedures for go arounds at busy airports.
I'm thinking ATL, DFW type places...you go around, but someone's taking off right underneath you on the "paired" takeoff runway...Seems like there could be a traffic conflict pretty quickly.
I know that during true IFR/IMC, takeoffs are sequenced around landings so that there are about zero potential conflicts.
But in visual conditions with planes launching about 30 seconds apart on two runways and with landings happening randomly at three places all around that- are there some rules in play that help deal with the unplanned addition to the traffic flow?
Do the initial altitudes and headings assigned to the departing guys save a slot for a potential go-around?
I know that the Mark IV eyeball is a dang good, and probably adequate separation tool, but conversely, airplanes have some pretty impressive blind spots...especially in the department of climbing up underneath someone's nose....and at a place like ATL you can't go too many thousand feet left or right...
Considering that we have so many other 'extreme proactive' safety procedures, it might be good to have an altitude and heading reserved for the go-around guy so he doesn't mix it up too bad with all the folks departing.
Conversely- when I read about some of the go-around incidents that have actually occurred at airports operating on "intersecting" runways (Memphis, Newark)...it would appear that those airports- the one's that really need them- don't have them.
So just to restate- Is anyone aware of some halfway formal procedures (altitudes and headings that are reserved ahead of time) to send go-around traffic away from a big flow of departing traffic in the event of a go-around?
...Or is it just a"mundane Oh shit" maintain visual separation, and take a few seconds and figure out what to do with the unexpected plane in the flow of departures?
Are any of our pilots (controllers?) aware of specific procedures for go arounds at busy airports.
I'm thinking ATL, DFW type places...you go around, but someone's taking off right underneath you on the "paired" takeoff runway...Seems like there could be a traffic conflict pretty quickly.
I know that during true IFR/IMC, takeoffs are sequenced around landings so that there are about zero potential conflicts.
But in visual conditions with planes launching about 30 seconds apart on two runways and with landings happening randomly at three places all around that- are there some rules in play that help deal with the unplanned addition to the traffic flow?
Do the initial altitudes and headings assigned to the departing guys save a slot for a potential go-around?
I know that the Mark IV eyeball is a dang good, and probably adequate separation tool, but conversely, airplanes have some pretty impressive blind spots...especially in the department of climbing up underneath someone's nose....and at a place like ATL you can't go too many thousand feet left or right...
Considering that we have so many other 'extreme proactive' safety procedures, it might be good to have an altitude and heading reserved for the go-around guy so he doesn't mix it up too bad with all the folks departing.
Conversely- when I read about some of the go-around incidents that have actually occurred at airports operating on "intersecting" runways (Memphis, Newark)...it would appear that those airports- the one's that really need them- don't have them.
So just to restate- Is anyone aware of some halfway formal procedures (altitudes and headings that are reserved ahead of time) to send go-around traffic away from a big flow of departing traffic in the event of a go-around?
...Or is it just a"mundane Oh shit" maintain visual separation, and take a few seconds and figure out what to do with the unexpected plane in the flow of departures?
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