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Originally posted by vaztr View PostOMG the Egyptian authorities are acting as bad as the Indonesians...
Greeks say plane made course adjustments - Egyptians deny this (Greeks, to their credit, don't say another word)
Egyptian official says 'explosion likely' - another says too early to tell
Now reports that the crew were in radio contact about smoke/fire on board from French news source (no data to back this up yet) - Egyptians denying this also
All this too'ing and fro'ing shows a complete lack of professionalism from the Egyptian authorities - They would do as well if they followed all the speculation on this site - in fact I believe that some comments on this site are worth more than lots we have heard from the Egyptian authorities so far
we need to follow scientifice rules until we get the results ...
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Originally posted by mecheil.edwar View PostEveryone saying something ... why we are not waiting until collecting data .. get black box ... it is not correct to issue any informatiob without evedince ... till now we do not know why fly dubai 981 failed ...it takes time ... why egyptair 804 everyone is looking to get final report very fast... USA for egypt air that crashed in USA 1999 they said pilot killed himself ... it seems like old magic that cause all problems in the world ...
we need to follow scientifice rules until we get the results ...
Back in 2008, US Rep. Bart Gordon (D-TN), Chairman of the Science and Technology Committee, in a letter to FAA acting administrator Robert Sturgell, asked for these things to be mandated and expedited. Because back in 2008, the threat was well-known and the FAA was still dragging its feet on the issue.
It is possible that the loss of Egyptair 804 is related to this deficiency, and we can be taking steps right now to deal with that, even if we never know what happened here.
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Originally posted by Evan View PostWe have a shred of evidence and we can speculate on that. The actual cause might not be known for a long time to come and if it has anything to do with correctable design or maintenance issues we really need to know that as soon as possible. That is why I am hoping to get at least a useful interim report released very fast (and thus the flight recorders retrieved without delay). In the meantime, we should be doing fleetwide inspections of avionics wiring and replacing any remaining MPET or AN26 thermal acoustic insulation in any commercial aircraft. We don't need to know what happened here to know that we need to do this. Beyond that, we should be pushing for retrofits of conventional CB's with the new generation of AFCB's.
Back in 2008, US Rep. Bart Gordon (D-TN), Chairman of the Science and Technology Committee, in a letter to FAA acting administrator Robert Sturgell, asked for these things to be mandated and expedited. Because back in 2008, the threat was well-known and the FAA was still dragging its feet on the issue.
It is possible that the loss of Egyptair 804 is related to this deficiency, and we can be taking steps right now to deal with that, even if we never know what happened here.Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.
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Originally posted by 3WE View PostIndeed. We should be grounding aircraft and fixing things that may not be broken.
We should be fixing what we know is dangerous. Fleetwide.
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Originally posted by mecheil.edwar View PostEveryone saying something ... why we are not waiting until collecting data .. get black box ... it is not correct to issue any informatiob without evedince ... till now we do not know why fly dubai 981 failed ...it takes time ... why egyptair 804 everyone is looking to get final report very fast... USA for egypt air that crashed in USA 1999 they said pilot killed himself ... it seems like old magic that cause all problems in the world ...
we need to follow scientifice rules until we get the results ...
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Originally posted by Evan View PostThe ability of conventional CB's to generate transient arcing events, heavy rain, hail, turbulence, wind shear and microbursts is well-acknowledged in the industry and led to the development of OBDWSDAS.Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.
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Originally posted by Evan View PostAnd of course you would know what an AFCB is if you had actually read my previous post (#82) but that would be a crazy dream on this forum.
--- Judge what is said by the merits of what is said, not by the credentials of who said it. ---
--- Defend what you say with arguments, not by imposing your credentials ---
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Originally posted by brianw999 View PostAny chance of us thickos having that in English ?
Obviously: On Board Digital Wind Shear Detection and Avoidance System.
What else could it be?
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--- Defend what you say with arguments, not by imposing your credentials ---
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Originally posted by Gabriel View Post...double meaning of CB...
...Obviously: On Board Digital Wind Shear Detection and Avoidance System...Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.
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It's been several days since we bashed any media.
Headline: "Plane did send out distress call" "Distress signal from EgyptAir flight 804 confirmed by authorities in Cairo and US."
Critical Sentence: A posting on Egypt’s State Information Service website said investigators had “received satellite reports indicating receiving an electronic distress call from the plane’s emergency locator transmitter (ELT)”. The co-ordinates were being used to narrow down the search area, the statement said.
Distress...we have encountered a rainstorm so severe that it's just 100% water, beginning around 0 feet MSL....Distress...we have suffered some structural failures.Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.
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