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  • Relentless Air France A350 Crew Discovers Pitch Limiting Feature.

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    It appears that the aircraft was airborne when this occurred.



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    It seems, yes. I don't know if they were still trying land after the bounce or if they had already started the go-around.
    In the video you can see (rather hear) that the "high power" engine noise comes after the tail strike, but that might be due to the spool-up delay.

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    • #3
      If so, do we file this under tail strike or CFIT? I saw a spotter report that the ground spoilers and reversers were deployed.

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      • #4
        Can't imagine that the reversers were deployed due to the short timeframe between the bounce and the GA initiation.
        Furthermore once the thrust reversers are unlocked, you are commited to land.

        The linked video shows why a high rotation rate is bad idea. The LH guy was simply lucky that his A350 was pretty fast during the bounce.
        The same goes for the linked photo which happened to a collegue of mine who is well known for his rapid rotation 'technique'.



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        • #5
          Originally posted by Evan View Post
          If so, do we file this under tail strike or CFIT?
          Why pick when you can have both?

          Seriously, though, MANY tail strikes happen when the airplane is airborne, in an aggressive rotation in take-off, go-around or landing where the tail lands before the wheels do.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Gabriel View Post

            Why pick when you can have both?

            Seriously, though, MANY tail strikes happen when the airplane is airborne, in an aggressive rotation in take-off, go-around or landing where the tail lands before the wheels do.
            Well...CFIT generally means the aircraft "flew into terrain" and stayed there, which is not the case in this instance...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ATLcrew View Post

              Well...CFIT generally means the aircraft "flew into terrain" and stayed there, which is not the case in this instance...
              Yeah I was sort of kidding there. But seriously, in Los Angeles they call this low-riding.

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              • #8
                So…would a favorite, basic 172 airmanship rule apply?

                For the record, I have removed paint from a 172 tie down loop doing soft field practice on a hard field.
                Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 3WE View Post
                  For the record, I have removed paint from a 172 tie down loop doing soft field practice on a hard field.
                  Me too. In the Tomahawk. More than paint and more than once. Not in a soft field take-off practice but in bad full-stall landings. Let's say that i used an exquisite tailwheel technique called 3-point landing.

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