EgyptAir crash: Wreckage found in Mediterranean
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Originally posted by flyerforfun View PostCVR has been recovered and handed over by Egyptian authorities to investigation team
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Originally posted by sjwk View PostAnd a BBC article for the non-French speakers:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-36551464
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Hopefully they won't be shy with the information. This one is a head-scratcher and the last two (AF-447 and AIrAsia 8501) both turned out to be unthinkable pilot error that nobody could have speculated. I hope that isn't the case here and if there is an incendiary threat inherent in the aircraft (such as in the case of Swissair 111) it needs to be made public (along with the steps to remediate it) as soon as it is positively identified.
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Originally posted by Evan View PostHopefully they won't be shy with the information. This one is a head-scratcher and the last two (AF-447 and AIrAsia 8501) both turned out to be unthinkable pilot error that nobody could have speculated. I hope that isn't the case here and if there is an incendiary threat inherent in the aircraft (such as in the case of Swissair 111) it needs to be made public (along with the steps to remediate it) as soon as it is positively identified.
aircraft: SR-MD11 (SR was the two letter code for the old Swissair, 1931-2002)
I don't think that almost 20 years after the worst accident with a Swiss aircraft, something like that should happen again. Everybody in Europe should have learned since 1998.
MD-11 again, I am too young to say what led to the development of the MD-11. Is it a direct successor of the DC-10?
Aircraft types that have been invented in the late 1960s do not necessarily include technical failure, I know what I am talkin about...
The BBC (sjwk's link) seems to be more up to date than the Daily Telegraph. CVR and FDR have been found, that's what we also know here in Germany. And both recorders are not in a shiny new condition...
Like Evan, I am curious. But I don't think that, since 1987, an A320 has been delivered with a technical mistake on board.The German long haul is alive, 65 years and still kicking.
The Gold Member in the 747 club, 50 years since the first LH 747.
And constantly advanced, 744 and 748 /w upper and lower EICAS.
This is Lohausen International airport speaking, echo delta delta lima.
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Originally posted by LH-B744 View Post
I don't think that almost 20 years after the worst accident with a Swiss aircraft, something like that should happen again. Everybody in Europe should have learned since 1998.
Like Evan, I am curious. But I don't think that, since 1987, an A320 has been delivered with a technical mistake on board.
Boeing and Airbus have taken steps on new aircraft designs like the B787 and the A350, but a 2003-build A320 in Egyptian hands since new could still have the more hazardous insulation. Lessons learned are worthless if you don't make changes mandatory.
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(CNN) - What sent EgyptAir flight 804 plummeting into the Mediterranean Sea last month, remains a mystery.
Egyptian investigators have failed to extract any information from the badly-damaged memory chips of the crucial black boxes.
Defeated, Egypt is now sending both the cockpit voice recorder and the flight data recorder to the BEA in France in an effort to help download the data.
The BEA -- the French version of the NTSB -- are considered some the best in the world at analyzing this type of equipment.
In a statement released on Thursday, EgyptAir said the French will "carry out repair and removal of salt accumulations."
"Then (the black boxes will be sent) back to Cairo to perform data analysis at the labs of the Ministry of Civil Aviation.
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Originally posted by LH-B744 View PostMD-11 again, I am too young to say what led to the development of the MD-11. Is it a direct successor of the DC-10?
Aircraft types that have been invented in the late 1960s do not necessarily include technical failure, I know what I am talkin about...
The BBC (sjwk's link) seems to be more up to date than the Daily Telegraph. CVR and FDR have been found, that's what we also know here in Germany. And both recorders are not in a shiny new condition...
Like Evan, I am curious. But I don't think that, since 1987, an A320 has been delivered with a technical mistake on board.
For sure you do! But I got a good laugh from it!
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Originally posted by LH-B744 View Post
MD-11 again, I am too young to say what led to the development of the MD-11. Is it a direct successor of the DC-10?
Like Evan, I am curious. But I don't think that, since 1987, an A320 has been delivered with a technical mistake on board.
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Originally posted by Evan View PostHopefully they won't be shy with the information. This one is a head-scratcher and the last two (AF-447 and AIrAsia 8501) both turned out to be unthinkable pilot error that nobody could have speculated. I hope that isn't the case here and if there is an incendiary threat inherent in the aircraft (such as in the case of Swissair 111) it needs to be made public (along with the steps to remediate it) as soon as it is positively identified.
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Can you guys stop that.
Good news from France (at least this time not just for some)
"Late Jun 27th 2016 Egypt's CAA announced (mirrored by the BEA in the morning of Jun 28th), that the French experts at the BEA Labs were able to successfully repair the electronic boards of the flight data recorder, subsequent testing to ensure data were on the recorder and can be downloaded has been successful. The following day (Jun 28th) attempts to repair the board of the cockpit voice recorder will commence, thereafter the recorders will be returned to Cairo for download and data analysis."
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Originally posted by EconomyClass View PostJust curious. Did Brazilian flights to Europe ever alter course at all? In the past 7 years, I'm thinking at least hundreds of planes have done Rio to Europe through the ITCZ without another crash. Had to be some number hit those super cold temperatures and updrafts. Only remedy I can think of is to fly through it over land so they don't plummet into a very deep submarine trench.
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