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Originally posted by ATLcrew View PostPerhaps. I just find it odd that someone would start his GSJC (Great Social Justice Crusade) with the airlines.
You don't fight injustice from the top down; you fight it where it hits you, from the bottom up.
When you tolerate a small injustice, you build much larger injustice from the bottom up.
Whether that injustice is coming from the airlines or the banks or the Justice Department or the kid next door is irrelevant.
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Shall we discuss the dude who did nothing wrong to develop a great drug, plunked a wad of cash down and raised the price several hundred x with no relation to the development cost and no special reinvestment to make more good drugs or cancer cures?
And ATL really nailed it- the license bureau is one hell of a crime against humanity. And the big box stores destroying how many other businesses...Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.
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Originally posted by Evan View PostAnd after five, you're just going in circles, which is I think more appropriate to this thread.Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.
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Originally posted by Evan View PostSo your point is what? The world is full of injustice so we should just accept it and move along?
You don't fight injustice from the top down; you fight it where it hits you, from the bottom up.
When you tolerate a small injustice, you build much larger injustice from the bottom up.
Whether that injustice is coming from the airlines or the banks or the Justice Department or the kid next door is irrelevant.
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Originally posted by ATLcrew View PostOh, I don't know, probably seven. Maybe even eight. Have you tried dealing with the healthcare industry? Insurance? Employment disputes? Or even municipal government? They all make DL and UA combined look like a tiny, fluffy kitten, believe you me.
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evan, there's one thing for sure you've missed. after deregulation, congress preempted the enforcement of state law as it pertains to airlines. google american airlines vs. wolens and enjoy the read.
you may not like it (i don't either frankly) but we are all prohibited from suing the airlines for just about everything except an EXTREMELY narrow exception, which i as an attorney have a hard time discerning.
i can tell you that i sued aa 3 times and the cases were not dismissed. however, just about every single case against them gets dismissed as a result of federal preemption.
instead of wasting your fingertips typing here, start typing letters to the asshats you elected and get them to change things. that's how democracy works
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Originally posted by ATLcrew View PostMy point is that starting one's quest for social justice with the airlines is not dissimilar to diligently applying a bandage on a paper cut when you have a dissected aorta.
Is is too much to ask that you keep the commentary out of the personal critique realm? You tend to keep going there.
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Originally posted by Evan View PostWhat is this "starting one's quest' nonsense? We're on an aviation forum talking about a specific violation of social justice. My 'quest' for social justice neither begins nor ends here.
Is is too much to ask that you keep the commentary out of the personal critique realm? You tend to keep going there.
Kind of fundamental.Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.
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Today's Incident
Air Canada “trapped” a 15-year-old overnight in a Toronto airport, a harrowing experience he claims was “like being held prisoner.” Derrin Espinola was flying alone on May 1…
Man, I go back and forth between feeling like Evan and ATL Crew.
Here's the deal, a very short time ago, airlines would be all goo goo over kids...and the ole adage, "that the customer is always right" (Which they are not, but which is sort of an underlying, fundamental rule of thumb, and mind set).
Ohh...we have a young kid...we should really take care of him...here gave some pilot wings, and go see the cockpit and get questioned about Turkish baths.
Still like all of these issues- there's often two sides...(and now a third side that the media is going to run an 'airlines suck' every time someone is messed over because of a cancellation).
What was the airline SUPPOSED to do with him...not sure that buying him a hotel room and leaving them is a great idea...I'd think that would make them very vulnerable to a lawsuit if he went to get a burger and get run over...He might have been better off being 'imprisoned' in the airport. Should an AC employee taken one for the team (and the customer) and baby sat him there at the airport?
I guess they could have gotten him a ticket on another airline (again, not too many years ago, that happened with some regularity).
Somehow, kind of sucking is kind of the norm these days...and then slap the normal curve on top of that and the cases of really sucking become that much more sucky.
By the way- how about those cases of name-brand car repair stores that 1) aggressively up charge you, 2) Fix things that aren't broken, 3) Blatantly lie about fluid color or 4) in the worst cases DO NOT ACTUALLY DO THE SERVICE THEY TELL YOU YOU NEED...they just click the drop down, lie to you and run your credit card...maybe more-so if you are female...soooooo wrong to discriminate!Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.
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Good news! It seems there's finally a solution for all these issues: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QTq-HEEnn4
Be alert! America needs more lerts.
Eric Law
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Originally posted by 3WE View PostWhen one is consistently unable to discern their fairly strong inability to comprehend the relative and gray nature of reality, in spite of a lot of genuine effort by several folks, one might inspire some personalized comments.
What was the airline SUPPOSED to do with him...
You also have to know how to use your head within the grey area.
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Originally posted by Evan View PostWhat is this "starting one's quest' nonsense? We're on an aviation forum talking about a specific violation of social justice.
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Originally posted by 3WE View Posthttp://nypost.com/2017/05/10/air-can...ht-at-airport/
Man, I go back and forth between feeling like Evan and ATL Crew.
Here's the deal, a very short time ago, airlines would be all goo goo over kids...and the ole adage, "that the customer is always right" (Which they are not, but which is sort of an underlying, fundamental rule of thumb, and mind set).
Ohh...we have a young kid...we should really take care of him...here gave some pilot wings, and go see the cockpit and get questioned about Turkish baths.
Still like all of these issues- there's often two sides...(and now a third side that the media is going to run an 'airlines suck' every time someone is messed over because of a cancellation).
What was the airline SUPPOSED to do with him...not sure that buying him a hotel room and leaving them is a great idea...I'd think that would make them very vulnerable to a lawsuit if he went to get a burger and get run over...He might have been better off being 'imprisoned' in the airport. Should an AC employee taken one for the team (and the customer) and baby sat him there at the airport?
I guess they could have gotten him a ticket on another airline (again, not too many years ago, that happened with some regularity).
Somehow, kind of sucking is kind of the norm these days...and then slap the normal curve on top of that and the cases of really sucking become that much more sucky.
By the way- how about those cases of name-brand car repair stores that 1) aggressively up charge you, 2) Fix things that aren't broken, 3) Blatantly lie about fluid color or 4) in the worst cases DO NOT ACTUALLY DO THE SERVICE THEY TELL YOU YOU NEED...they just click the drop down, lie to you and run your credit card...maybe more-so if you are female...soooooo wrong to discriminate!
Had I been trapped by myself in an airport at age 15, I woulda thought it was the awesomest thing ever, bar none!
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