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Originally posted by LH-B744 View PostAre 777s really so much slower than 747s?
B-777 Mmo: M 0.89
A-380 Mmo: M 0.89
A-340 Mmo: M 0.86
A-330 Mmo: M 0.86
747 is a legend, since more than 40 years. And you don't replace a legend who's in the company since more than 40 years.
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Today's headline...
I'm not sure if the linky is right- here's the story: Airline Excludes Family From Flight, Forcing Them To Pay $4000 For Tickets
AND, Air Canada this time.
Cue op the ole ATL vs. Evan argument...I gave you guys a fair chunk of change...does it count for SOMETHING?
...or did the customer genuinely muck it up and deserve what they got?Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.
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Do you intentionally always give the wrong link or what? Do you realize that your link ends in ss_in-threat-to-boeing%2C-chinese.html?
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Originally posted by Gabriel View PostDo you intentionally always give the wrong link or what? Do you realize that your link ends in ss_in-threat-to-boeing%2C-chinese.html?
Indeed, expeletive Yahoo!'s new news methodology may have resulted in a goofy link or two. But I think the link to United's losses over Harvey was correct, and not too much of a stretch that it migh result in more 'great' United service.
I did notice the URL, which matched the SECOND article below Air Canada tripping up a family...checked it twice.Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.
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Originally posted by Gabriel View PostDo you intentionally always give the wrong link or what? Do you realize that your link ends in ss_in-threat-to-boeing%2C-chinese.html?Be alert! America needs more lerts.
Eric Law
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Originally posted by 3WE View PostAlways? Did I ever tell you about absolute statements.
Do you intentionally almost always give the wrong link or what? Do you realize that your link ends in ss_in-threat-to-boeing%2C-chinese.html?
I did notice the URL, which matched the SECOND article below Air Canada tripping up a family...checked it twice.
Next time, if you want to discuss about Air Canada tripping up a family, try with the link about Air Canada tripping up a family instead of the link of the second article below that.
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Be alert! America needs more lerts.
Eric Law
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I found the last statement in the article somewhat full of ironing.
Originally posted by thivakaran
"I'm never travelling on Air Canada again," says Thivakaran. "Even if I was on my death bed and I needed immediate treatment in U.S. (bolding mine-ATLcrew), I'd rather die than go on Air Canada."
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Originally posted by Gabriel View PostWell, whatever. I can't find it. Not even using the search function available in that Yahoo page.
Next time, if you want to discuss about Air Canada tripping up a family, try with the link about Air Canada tripping up a family instead of the link of the second article below that.
I gave you a link that worked for me.
I then took a moment to double check it.
Not only that, I went the extra yard and gave context so that a person (like elaw) could STILL search out the article.
Given what you paid me for this service, quit your bitching.
Typical from a dude who expects more room on the plane than I get, but doesn't think he should have to pay for it.Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.
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Originally posted by 3WE View PostI gave you a link that worked for me.
I then took a moment to double check it.
Not only that, I went the extra yard and gave context so that a person (like elaw) could STILL search out the article.
Given what you paid me for this service...
เปดประสบการณใหมในการใชงานบน สลอตเวบตรง ของเราทน มทางเขาใหมลาสดทสามารถใหนกพนนไดรบความสะดวก และความสนกกนได
(please let me know if the link takes you to some unrelated joke instead)
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Originally posted by Gabriel View PostAre you a consultant?
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he works for an airline.The German long haul is alive, 65 years and still kicking.
The Gold Member in the 747 club, 50 years since the first LH 747.
And constantly advanced, 744 and 748 /w upper and lower EICAS.
This is Lohausen International airport speaking, echo delta delta lima.
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Originally posted by ATLcrew View PostWhat?The German long haul is alive, 65 years and still kicking.
The Gold Member in the 747 club, 50 years since the first LH 747.
And constantly advanced, 744 and 748 /w upper and lower EICAS.
This is Lohausen International airport speaking, echo delta delta lima.
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Originally posted by Gabriel View PostB-747 Mmo: M 0.92
B-777 Mmo: M 0.89
A-380 Mmo: M 0.89
A-340 Mmo: M 0.86
A-330 Mmo: M 0.86
They will. And since Boeing is discontinuing the production after only 133 airframes delivered (including the last 18 to be delivered, which is all the backlog that is left after a net of minus 5 orders in 2017), it seems that United is not the only airline NOT in love with the 747 anymore (at least from a business case point of view), and, with no more development or derivatives insight, even LH will get rid of them sooner or later. The 777-Max will be significantly more efficient than the current 777, which in turn is significantly more efficient than the 747, which we all love, but whose queendom is ending.
But you n me know where we also in the future can find some 747s or 777s:
KL-B773ER
AC-B773ER
United B772ER
and last but not least
LH-B748i
I had a rough guess even without your help. Why had President Obama owned a 747 as his company car, and not a 777. Surely not because .. the 777 is one or two dollars cheaper than the 747. I don't think that the price for one 747 unit is a criterion which were important for Obama. But Airspeed might have been one criterion why Obama has not repealed the VC-25.
At least if it concerns one airport in South America, the 747 will stay (afaik)! ...
PS:
even LH will get rid of them sooner or later.
February 6th 2014. And now you have to believe me. 747s who are owned and flown by LH can become 25 years old, in good health.
Now. Let me ask you, what are your plans for February 6th in the year 2040?!
And still for Gabriel, and everybody who is interested in it.. 133, so what did you count, all orders for B748i and B748F combined, at the end of August 2017? At this moment, I have a source which says 47 B748i plus 88 B748F, for me that makes 135. But that's not a thing that we should argue about.
I like to say that LH is not responsible for the demise of 747 orders, and "we" have never been responsible for that, not since 1970. Quite in contrary!
Since the 747-800 has been invented in 2011, I'm wondering why until today not a single B748 has been ordered by
UA
DL
or
AA.
Imho, there is only 1 answer. The B748i is the second biggest passenger jet on earth today, afaik, concerning MTOW and pax capacity.
Is it true that only very few airlines on this planet today are able to 100% fill a B748i?
And no US-American flag carrier is among these longtime 747 customers?
That seems to be true, but that'll be a fact that I'll have to learn. I still know 747s which were painted completely in orange:
How many 747 operators were there in the USA when I became an aviation enthusiast?The German long haul is alive, 65 years and still kicking.
The Gold Member in the 747 club, 50 years since the first LH 747.
And constantly advanced, 744 and 748 /w upper and lower EICAS.
This is Lohausen International airport speaking, echo delta delta lima.
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