Cessna 414 Crash at KSNA

[daveyl123]

Thank you.

[ATLcrew]

Thank you.

You're welcome. Thanks for stopping by.

[daveyl123]

A comparative example of this type of mishap would be the Cirrus fatal crash at Houston. The Learjet fatal crash at Teterboro would also illustrate how maneuvering an aircraft at low altitudes and airspeeds needs your rapt attention.

[daveyl123]

Right. What's your guess?

[3WE]

A comparative example of this type of mishap would be the Cirrus fatal crash at Houston. The Learjet fatal crash at Teterboro would also illustrate how maneuvering an aircraft at low altitudes and airspeeds needs your rapt attention.

...you forgot Hui Theiu Lo and his hand landing on a beautiful Sunday evening.

[Evan]

The Learjet fatal crash at Teterboro would also illustrate how maneuvering an aircraft at low altitudes and airspeeds needs your rapt airmanship.

I'm fairly confident this one was not an error of concentration but rather an error of understanding the relationship between bank angle and stall speed.

[ATLcrew]

...maneuvering an aircraft at low altitudes and airspeeds needs your rapt attention.

Davey, buddy, tell me it didn't take you thirty years of "avocation" to arrive at that.

[Evan]

Or perhaps that Teterboro crash was a case of NAVIGATE - AVIATE. The pilot may have been so fixated on the lateral navigation that he neglected to concentrate on the fundamentals. Maybe this one as well. There's a good reason for having two minds in the cockpit on commercial transport (if not three or four).

[ATLcrew]

Or perhaps that Teterboro crash was a case of NAVIGATE - AVIATE. The pilot may have been so fixated on the lateral navigation that he neglected to concentrate on the fundamentals. Maybe this one as well. There's a good reason for having two minds in the cockpit on commercial transport (if not three or four).

Or five, or six, or seven...

[daveyl123]

Older -310s with "Tuna Tanks" were persnickety during stalls. Cessna improved the stall characteristics and lateral stability of their twins with streamlined tip tanks. If, as I suspect, the plane stalled during a steep banking maneuver, the wing was already dropped.

[daveyl123]

Tell me, were you in the military?

[daveyl123]

Fuel is a question mark. Tank switching would also be on the docket for discussions. That bank description by the witness, though, points to a stall entry.

[Evan]

Or five, or six, or seven...

Didn't work so well with the Poles.

[daveyl123]

"Or five or six or seven". You must've flown Buffs.

[BoeingBobby]

Popcorn's ready!