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Originally posted by daveyl123
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Oh no ATL, not the dreaded 7 engine approach! Think he was talking about warm bodies not power plants. -
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Frankly, I also suspect that many of these mishaps stem from pilot over-reliance on automation. Once they pickle the "Alt Hold", or other couplings, they don't have the manual flying acumen to maneuver the plane with the controls, or by reference to instruments (In this case, the Airspeed Indicator.) I didn't mention the KSFO Asiana Boeing crash, or the Citation mishap in the Midwest, but both were indicative of this growing phenomenon.Comment
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Just need LHB-747-800...Originally posted by BoeingBobby View PostLes règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.Comment
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I experienced one flight aboard a 747 between Guam and KSFO, with a stop at PHNL. It was a comfortable old bus.Comment
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Some background data, too, helps flesh out causal factors. The biplane/wing walker tragedy (Wicker) was explained by a discussion between the pilot and Ms Wicker about lowering the airspeed for entering the maneuver. It turned out that speed did not provide aileron authority during the inverted portion of the flight. To this day, I believe the pilot deliberately crashed the plane in order to save the crowd, as he was unable to direct the aircraft away from the show line.Comment
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I agree: low speed and high AoA both reduce aileron effectiveness. A person seating on the wing also disrupts lift on that wing, and if she is sitting ahead of the aileron further reduces aileron effectiveness, and not to mention that she also created an asymmetric weight. All these factors pointed in the same direction, and the aileron just didn't have enough authority to lift the body of the woman sitting near the wingtip.Originally posted by daveyl123 View Post
Hmmm.... I don't think so... Seeing that he could not pick up the wing, he tried to roll it in the other direction. If he just wanted to crash he could have pulled up (which was down).To this day, I believe the pilot deliberately crashed the plane in order to save the crowd, as he was unable to direct the aircraft away from the show line.
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The maneuver toward the ground was abrupt and deliberate. Judging from the video, the aircraft was angling toward the crowd (According to the NTSB Report, an airliner was parked in a position the biplane was headed toward.) It looked like all of these factors combined to convince the pilot his ticket was going to be punched, and he decided to confine the 'collateral damage' to the infield below the aircraft.Comment
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Maybe. Let's wait for the MDR report.Originally posted by daveyl123 View Post
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I recently flew with an ex-Barksdale BUFF navigator. He related that he got to be a part of the even more dreaded SIX-engine approach a couple times.Originally posted by BoeingBobby View PostComment
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Would you say that 310s thus equipped were Tricky Beasts?Originally posted by daveyl123 View PostComment
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I disliked Gabby’s earlier YouTube link where a dude is doing and old fashioned turn and the plane say “screw it” by promptly screwing itself straight into the ground.Originally posted by ATLcrew View PostLes règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.Comment
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We had a bunch of Buff drivers at Atlas. Different breed for sure. They can drink a gallon of coffee and hold it for hours. If it is less than a 20 hour day for them, and no more than one AR it's a local.Originally posted by ATLcrew View PostComment
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"..Barksdale navigator.." FISH KILLERS!Comment
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I think we need to introduce the nub to LH. What do you all think?Comment
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